Oregon Republican Party launches recall campaign against Kate Brown

[Pollster]

Lol

[Nyvin]

Not happening.

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (not only Republican).....

[President Johnson]

OSR will be happy about it.

[Pericles]

Lol, they already had their chance to remove Brown in November 2018 and that effort failed by a 6.4% margin.

[Hammy]

The irony that they cited executive orders as one of the reasons given what their false god is doing.

[Starry Eyed Jagaloon]

Kate Brown is a massive FF and the Oregon Republican party is repulsive.

[fluffypanther19]

 

[brucejoel99]

Nutcases stamp their feet! News at 11!

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

[ON Progressive]

Good luck with that one.

[NOVA Green]

Wow!!!

So they suffered a major rejection in November '18 not only in the OR-GOV election, but also in the OR State House and Senate, and now they jump on the "Crazy Train"....

Here is a thread that I started which delves a bit into the OR State House/Senate Election results....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=306731.msg6566888#msg6566888

Hard to see how this will somehow present the Oregon Republican Party as a "Moderate Republican Party" heading into the 2020 GE.

Something tells me that Trump's numbers have not improved in Oregon between the '16 GE and today.

Oregon Upstate/downstate politics in theory should have meant Buehler performing better than he actually did, especially considering the appeal the PDX burbs, and similar places in Salem, Corvallis, Eugene, Bend, and Medford....

This did not happen....

The OSR has become a pale shadow of a former powerful and influential Party which originated back in the days shortly before Lincoln was elected and Oregon became a State with a backdrop of the Abolitionist Movement that was heavily influential not only among the New England settlers in the Northern Part of the State, but even in Southern Oregon.

The proud party of Mark Hatfield, Vic Atiyeh and Tom Mccall---- all legendary Republican Oregonians remembered to the present day among many Native Oregonians, would literally rise from the dead, crawl out of their coffins, dig the earth and rise again to condemn the swamp of hate and deceit that the Oregon Republican Party has become in the era of Trump, and either run as a Democrat Zombie or an Oregon Independent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hatfield

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Atiyeh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_McCall

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Republican_Party

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

[NOVA Green]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

Sorry, what does this have to do with Oregon?

We're preparing a vote to leave the Union on the 2020 Ballot, so not quite sure what the hell you are talking about???

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

Sorry, what does this have to do with Oregon?

We're preparing a vote to leave the Union on the 2020 Ballot, so not quite sure what the hell you are talking about???

When someone "corrected" my post - i was forced to give a "correction" too: while Oregon Republicans are, obviously, mad - they are not alone, and have a lot of Democrats as a "company". There are no "good sides" for me in present day American politics.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Wow!!!

So they suffered a major rejection in November '18 not only in the OR-GOV election, but also in the OR State House and Senate, and now they jump on the "Crazy Train"....

Here is a thread that I started which delves a bit into the OR State House/Senate Election results....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=306731.msg6566888#msg6566888

I wouldn’t call their defeat in 2018 a major defeat . In a + 9 Dem year nationally  , Knute lost by under 7 points against an incumbent. If Hillary was President , Knute very well could have won (Dudley and Mannix only lost due to right wing third party splitting the votes )


To put it in more context , Gretchen Whitmer did much better than Kate Brown did and MI is a much more less Democratic than Oregon 

[smoltchanov]

Wow!!!

So they suffered a major rejection in November '18 not only in the OR-GOV election, but also in the OR State House and Senate, and now they jump on the "Crazy Train"....

Here is a thread that I started which delves a bit into the OR State House/Senate Election results....

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=306731.msg6566888#msg6566888

I wouldn’t call their defeat in 2018 a major defeat . In a + 9 Dem year nationally  , Knute lost by under 7 points against an incumbent. If Hillary was President , Knute very well could have won (Dudley and Mannix only lost due to right wing third party splitting the votes )


To put it in more context , Gretchen Whitmer did much better than Kate Brown did and MI is a much more less Democratic than Oregon 

Here i fully agree. Brown is the only Democrat on my personal list of 5 worst governors. But, in "normal" situation Oregon is simply "too Democratic"...

[NOVA Green]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

Sorry, what does this have to do with Oregon?

We're preparing a vote to leave the Union on the 2020 Ballot, so not quite sure what the hell you are talking about???

When someone "corrected" my post - i was forced to give a "correction" too: while Oregon Republicans are, obviously, mad - they are not alone, and have a lot of Democrats as a "company". There are no "good sides" for me in present day American politics.

Ok--- fair enough smoltchanov.

Come out and visit Oregon and you will likely receive a warm welcome.

If you chose to spend time in Southern Oregon, I can give you a roadmap of communities that have suffered for over 40 Years at the hands of Democratic and Republican Presidential Administrations alike.....

These are proud parts of "Rural Oregon" where now logs are rarely milled in Southern Oregon, where the Union Mills are now strip malls, where our Forests are getting shipped via rail, even bypassing the few pulp mills now remaining, so that Oregon logs can come back from China in the form of Toilet Paper....

The backlash against the decline of the Forest Products Industry, which first massively materialized in the form of the Reagan Recession of the early '80s which decimated smaller family owned mills as part of a "forced austerity package" and created massive levels of support for DEM PRES candidates in '84 and '88 ended up being exploited by the Extreme Right Wing that had conquered the Oregon Republican Party in the late '80s/ early '90s.

Now the Environmentalists are the enemy causing the shutdown of the mills, while the Forest Product Industry had already mined our forests and "double-breasted" by shifting timber plantations to the Southern US, where a new wave of forests were coming of age....

Meanwhile, the Oregon Republican Party goes ape s**t crazy after the OCA movement took control of the party on a platform of extreme homophobia, gutting abortion rights, banning porn, combined with another crazy wing of the movement that supports extreme property rights and tax cuts (Mainly a tax give-away to large timber companies and profitable ranchers in Central and Eastern Oregon)....

Regardless, the political geography of the State has changed, and over the decades many and many Old Skool Oregon Republicans have become Independents, and then many others eventually Democrats.

So, not sure why you are posting on an OR thread, but please review the history of my state, and will be happy to welcome you to Oregon....

[smoltchanov]

Sigh. How low American politics has fallen (almost entirely Republican).....

FTFY

No. BOTH parties say and do atrocious things now. As i said earlier - that CoS of AOC is no better from my point of view, then Trump. It's good, that he is much less influential so far. But - who knows, what will be in the future? Generally - there is little, but lot of dirt, in US politics NOW....

Sorry, what does this have to do with Oregon?

We're preparing a vote to leave the Union on the 2020 Ballot, so not quite sure what the hell you are talking about???

When someone "corrected" my post - i was forced to give a "correction" too: while Oregon Republicans are, obviously, mad - they are not alone, and have a lot of Democrats as a "company". There are no "good sides" for me in present day American politics.

Ok--- fair enough smoltchanov.

Come out and visit Oregon and you will likely receive a warm welcome.

If you chose to spend time in Southern Oregon, I can give you a roadmap of communities that have suffered for over 40 Years at the hands of Democratic and Republican Presidential Administrations alike.....

These are proud parts of "Rural Oregon" where now logs are rarely milled in Southern Oregon, where the Union Mills are now strip malls, where our Forests are getting shipped via rail, even bypassing the few pulp mills now remaining, so that Oregon logs can come back from China in the form of Toilet Paper....

The backlash against the decline of the Forest Products Industry, which first massively materialized in the form of the Reagan Recession of the early '80s which decimated smaller family owned mills as part of a "forced austerity package" and created massive levels of support for DEM PRES candidates in '84 and '88 ended up being exploited by the Extreme Right Wing that had conquered the Oregon Republican Party in the late '80s/ early '90s.

Now the Environmentalists are the enemy causing the shutdown of the mills, while the Forest Product Industry had already mined our forests and "double-breasted" by shifting timber plantations to the Southern US, where a new wave of forests were coming of age....

Meanwhile, the Oregon Republican Party goes ape s**t crazy after the OCA movement took control of the party on a platform of extreme homophobia, gutting abortion rights, banning porn, combined with another crazy wing of the movement that supports extreme property rights and tax cuts (Mainly a tax give-away to large timber companies and profitable ranchers in Central and Eastern Oregon)....

Regardless, the political geography of the State has changed, and over the decades many and many Old Skool Oregon Republicans have become Independents, and then many others eventually Democrats.

So, not sure why you are posting on an OR thread, but please review the history of my state, and will be happy to welcome you to Oregon....

Thanks for detailed story, and for kind invitation! I will try!

And now - few more words to clarify. Why did i posted in Oregon thread? Pure accdent, mostly. The foolishness of Republican party of Oregon action in this particular case led to general thinking about quality of modern American polics as a whole. So - it's happened, that this was most easy to put in THIS thread. My apologies for some distraction....

[JGibson]

Spoilt crybabies is what the Oregon GOP are.

[Tartarus Sauce]

I guess they feel emboldened by the success of their quorum busting stunt.

If they keep this up, they won't even have the numbers to pull off that by the end of the next election cycle.

[Epaminondas]

Spoilt crybabies is what the Oregon GOP are.

I've just realised how immovable the party shares are in Oregon.

In the past 5 elections (since 1998), the winning Dem candidate has received 49-51% and the GOP losing candidate 43-48%
It's like Oregon is the GOP's Florida.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Spoilt crybabies is what the Oregon GOP are.

I've just realised how immovable the party shares are in Oregon.

In the past 5 elections (since 1998), the winning Dem candidate has received 49-51% and the GOP losing candidate 43-48%
It's like Oregon is the GOP's Florida.

You know I had to do it to em

[NOVA Green]

Spoilt crybabies is what the Oregon GOP are.

I've just realised how immovable the party shares are in Oregon.

In the past 5 elections (since 1998), the winning Dem candidate has received 49-51% and the GOP losing candidate 43-48%
It's like Oregon is the GOP's Florida.

The Oregon Republican Party is "launching a recall effort" against Kate Brown in order to create publicity and political relevancy now that Democrats have complete control of the Legislative Chambers plus Governor.

'Pubs took massive hits in the OR State House & Senate races in '18 looking at the swings compared to previous elections (Although not necessarily losing OR-SEN seats in '18).

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--- OR State Senate District #10 Liberal Republican Jackie Winters who ran unopposed in '14 comes close to losing in Salem Oregon, after helping pass a criminal justice reform bill, which essentially decriminalized possession of certain personal quantities of hard drugs.

Unfortunately Jackie passed away on May 29th.... RIP FF.... who fought for the rights of all Oregonians as a Liberal Republican.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Winters

Here is the replacement slate:

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2019/06/14/nominees-selected-replace-jackie-winters-senate/1460465001/

This seat will now be open in the 2020 GE and a likely DEM pickup....

--- OR State Senate District #13 which is basically a safe 'Pub district including Keizer, rurals, and slivers of exurban PDX is only a +12 R district in '18.

--- OR State Senate District # 8 (Corvallis-Albany)   +19% D swing AND Dems only narrowly lost the Linn County portion of the district (!).

--- OR State Senate District # 11 (NE Salem, Woodburn, and rural Marion County)   +12% DEM swing

--- OR State Senate District #26 (Hood River, parts of Exurban Clackamas County) +13% DEM Swing

--- OR State Senate District #10 (Hillsboro, Forest Grove, etc)....     +10% Dem Swing

Now, time to look at swings in OR-State-House Elections (2 Yr term).

Dems gained (3) seats in the State House....

The last Republican Oregon House Districts in Metro Portland were eliminated in '18:

OR-HD-26 (SW Washington County---- Exurban / Suburban PDX) goes 51-47 Dem (+14% D Swing).

OR-HD-37 (Southern suburban /exurban Clackamas County) goes 53-47 Dem (+16% D Swing).

I can go through the list of swings between '16 > '18 in Oregon State House seats, including +14% D swing in OR-HD-39 (SE Clackamas County) +14% D Swing, OR-HD-35 (Tigard)  +10% D Swing, OR-HD-30 (NW Multnomah County)  +19% D Swing.

Metro Salem--- +9-16% D Swings ('16 >'18)....

Southern Oregon---- OR-HD-7 (Rural SE Lane and NE Douglas)   + 19% D swing in a heavily 'Pub district (!!!).

I could keep rolling the numbers, but basically the OR 'Pub Party took some major hits in 2018 in a Year where Trump wasn't even on the ballot.

The entire concept that the Oregon Republican Party is attempting a recall effort against Kate Brown who won by extremely large margins (Much more than I would have anticipated for an off-year), after they got their bottoms smacked hard in the '18 GE, where even beloved Jackie was taking a major hit in a fairly heavily DEM part of Salem....

Anyways.... a few maps and posts that I started on the OR-GE-'18 elections from another thread that I never really spent tons of time delving into precinct results....


https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=306731.msg6566888#msg6566888

[Epaminondas]

'Pubs took massive hits in the OR State House & Senate races in '18 looking at the swings compared to previous elections (Although not necessarily losing OR-SEN seats in '18).

I'd forgotten that Nova the Beaver State expert still rode among us.

What interests me is why these "massive swings" occured when Kate Brown fared virtually the same as Kitzhaber in 2010-2014, and worse than her 2016 election?

More downballot ticket splitting?

Incidentally, another question I've long wondered: how is OR-02 ("Western Idaho"), trending?