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Question: Regarding term limits, I think:
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we should have them
 
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we should not have them
 
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I Am Feeblepizza.
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« on: September 06, 2011, 10:57:55 AM »

America is a republic and not a democracy. There are limits on power. The majority doesn't always rule.
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I Am Feeblepizza.
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 07:47:29 AM »

America is a republic and not a democracy. There are limits on power. The majority doesn't always rule.

This idiotic distinction between "republic" and "democracy" is an exclusively American thing. It also unfortunately shows that you don't know the meaning of the words.

Democracy is when the supreme power of government rests in the hands of the voters alone.

A republic is where the supreme power of government rests in the hands of certain citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen either directly or indirectly by those citizens.

I do know the meaning of the words. There's a pretty fundamental between the two terms. And I assume that the question pertains to the U.S. because this site is centered mostly around American politics and elections.
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I Am Feeblepizza.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 10:37:17 AM »

America is a republic and not a democracy. There are limits on power. The majority doesn't always rule.

This idiotic distinction between "republic" and "democracy" is an exclusively American thing. It also unfortunately shows that you don't know the meaning of the words.

Democracy is when the supreme power of government rests in the hands of the voters alone.

A republic is where the supreme power of government rests in the hands of certain citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen either directly or indirectly by those citizens.

I do know the meaning of the words. There's a pretty fundamental between the two terms. And I assume that the question pertains to the U.S. because this site is centered mostly around American politics and elections.

Just because a good deal of people in the U.S. use the words this way, doesn't mean it's correct or makes any sense.

"Democracy" and "Republican" do not contradict each other. "Democracy" means rule by the people, whether direct or indirect. "Republic" means little more than that the Head of State isn't born into the position, as in a monarchy, for example.

And whether or not term-limits of all things are in place....is really not a product of whether a country is a "democracy", a "republic"....or even, gasp......a democratic republic!

Check your dictionary, man. You have the wrong definitions.
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I Am Feeblepizza.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2011, 05:16:35 PM »

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Republic

Dictionary.com: "A state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them."

"A state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state" is the third definition. Nice try, though.

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I Am Feeblepizza.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 07:40:23 AM »

Yeah, ALF is really abusing the word "Republic," which simply means "a country that isn't a monarchy" (thus North Korea, the US, and, Switzerland are all Republics, but the UK, Saudi Arabia, and Sweden all aren't).  Republic has nothing to do with how the government is actually selected, which, in the US, is done democratically.  The "Republic, not a Democracy" thing is the dumbest talking point.
North Korea is not a republic. It has a hereditary head of state.

Can you give me an example of a "democracy"? Are there any countries in the world where elected representative don't govern as representatives of the people? The referendum system would be the closest to "democracy" as you define it, no?
No, I don't think there are any countries where elected officials don't govern as representatives of the people. The referendum system would be the closest thing to a true democracy, yes.
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