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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: February 13, 2009, 02:58:13 PM »


Why?
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 03:06:30 PM »


     Maybe I am mistaken, but wouldn't it be cheaper for the government to just make sure that they treat their prisoners in a respectable fashion than it would be to actually run your own prisons?

Almost certainly not.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2009, 03:31:08 PM »


     Maybe I am mistaken, but wouldn't it be cheaper for the government to just make sure that they treat their prisoners in a respectable fashion than it would be to actually run your own prisons?

Almost certainly not.

     Oh? I wasn't aware that regulation was typically more expensive than operation, it seems.

Running a prison isn't quite the same as running (say) a sweet shop.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 03:42:14 PM »

     Oh? I wasn't aware that regulation was typically more expensive than operation, it seems.

Running a prison isn't quite the same as running (say) a sweet shop.

Ah, but are you sure that is the right metaphor, perhaps you were trying to say, sweat shop, perchance?

I chose my words with care Wink

Because, of course, you can't run a prison as a sweat-shop (not one profitable enough to cover the huge costs of housing and feeding the inmates, anyway) and also run a prison in an "acceptable fashion".
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 03:49:00 PM »

     Oh? I wasn't aware that regulation was typically more expensive than operation, it seems.

Running a prison isn't quite the same as running (say) a sweet shop.

Ah, but are you sure that is the right metaphor, perhaps you were trying to say, sweat shop, perchance?

I chose my words with care Wink

Because, of course, you can't run a prison as a sweat-shop (not one profitable enough to cover the huge costs of housing and feeding the inmates, anyway) and also run a prison in an "acceptable fashion".

I don't think you understood my oblique reference (not any more) to private prisons, at least some that I have read about.

No, I think I got it Smiley
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 12:00:06 PM »


     Maybe I am mistaken, but wouldn't it be cheaper for the government to just make sure that they treat their prisoners in a respectable fashion than it would be to actually run your own prisons?

Almost certainly not.

     Oh? I wasn't aware that regulation was typically more expensive than operation, it seems.
You still have to pay for the prisons' operation, you know.

I'm sure that the magic of teh market will find some way of dealing with that "reality based" problem.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 02:05:19 PM »

with prisoners having a hand in the running of the prison.

They do already, a lot of the term. Er... some prisoners anyway. A certain sort of prisoner.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2009, 03:49:26 PM »

http://uk.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUKTRE51C0EP20090213

U.S. judges admit to jailing children for money

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Two judges pleaded guilty on Thursday to accepting more than $2.6 million from a private youth detention centre in Pennsylvania in return for giving hundreds of youths and teenagers long sentences.

Judges Mark Ciavarella and Michael Conahan of the Court of Common Pleas in Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, entered plea agreements in federal court in Scranton admitting that they took payoffs from PA Childcare and a sister company, Western PA Childcare, between 2003 and 2006.

So there is such a thing as giving corruption a bad name...
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