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Question: What is your view of the feminist movement in retrospect?
#1
Fantastic- gave women rights they were strongly denied. Go get em girls!
 
#2
Hmm. It was okay, but it's now impractical as equality has been reached
 
#3
It caused more harm than good. Men got a raw deal today and children and the family have been ignored. But equality for women is still important
 
#4
A failure. Men are now the victims of a female orientated health and education system. It is men who now have to play catch-up not women.
 
#5
Feminism is the tool of the devil.
 
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: January 10, 2005, 07:24:04 AM »

None of the above
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 09:16:14 AM »

When the feminist movement started, it was a very good thing.  Women were drastically looked down upon when they tried to do anything that was a "male" thing to do for about the first two-thirds of the 19th Century.

My grandmother and mother and living proof of this.  When my grandmother graduated from high school in the '30s, she wanted to be a doctor.  When she went to talk to an advisor about the issue, the advisor sternly informed her that she actually wanted to be a nurse.  That was the end of that.  When my mother was going to university even in the '60s, none of the professors took her seriously because they all figured that she was just there to find a man, get pregnant, and become a housewife.  Clearly, radical reform of this situation was needed, and the feminist movement was there to do just that.

Today, women are very, very close to achieving total equality in the workplace.  There still are some lingering stigmas that make women feel like they shouldn't do "male" things, but if a female does decide to do a "male" thing, nobody will argue.  Most would even encourage her.

There's just one problem: the feminist movement hasn't died down.

Not satisfied with equality with men, now the feminist movement (or at least a large part of it) seems dead-set on making men inferior to women.  For example, sexist jokes against men are perceived as an expression of a woman's liberty, while sexist jokes against women are considered disgusting, misogynistic, etc.  Women are allowed to playfully hit men - that's "cute" - but men aren't allowed to playfully hit women - that's "assault and battery".  Men are looked down upon both when they're the giver and when they're the receiver of abuse, the former because their actions are rightly perceived as horrible and the latter because it's supposedly a reflection of a man's inadequate masculinity to be pushed around by a female.  Females, on the other hand, get off scot-free in both cases.

I'm all for female equality to men, and it's because of that, not in spite of it, that I can't stand the modern feminist movement.  They've gone past wanting simply equality for females, and in doing so, they've gone too far.

If a feminist does want simply equality, good for her.  I agree completely and will cheer her on.  From what I've seen, however, she wouldn't represent the majority of feminists.

I agree with that. A lot of the more radical feminists are also disgusting hypocrites... let's take Greer;

1. She has on several occasions posed for (hard core) pornographic magazines.
2. She has defended female "circumsision" (read: Genital Mutilation)
3. She is currently an "inmate" (or whatever them call 'em) on a sh**tty reality T.V show ("Celebrity Big Brother").#
4. She's a sexist female chauvanist
5. She doesn't know how to draw but likes to prat around as a critic
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2005, 09:31:47 AM »

Please keep her, we don't mind a bit of a 'brain' drain.

Let's give her to... er... South Africa... instead ;-)
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2005, 10:00:29 AM »

no, because females don't has equal amounts of aids in South Africa, so she wouldn't go.

Hmm... Afghanistan :-P
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