Hungary...

[ingemann]

From what I understand, Jobbik is the actual fascist party, while the ruling right-wing Fidesz is making themselves a kind of messianic nationalist type of party, and the left has completely fallen apart.

So it doesn't look good in Hungary. Or Greece with the Golden Dawn.

If Golden Dawn and Jobbik become more popular and ally with each other...

I think we all get why Jobbik is successful, it's the anti-Semitism which is weird. Jews are almost gone from Hungary, and Gypsies are a much bigger and more obvious target for a group like Jobbik. So 30ties style anti-Semitism just come across as weird.

[ingemann]

Eh, I guess anti-semites have never really been ones to let facts get in the way of hating.

I disagree, if we look historical virulent anti-Semitism has existed in areas with significant Jewish population. Anti-Semitism based on general Christian or Islamic antipathy toward Jews rather than direct contact was usual more intellectual or symbolic.

[ingemann]

Shh! Stop typing. I can't hear the E.U fiddling.

EU learnt its lesson from the entire FPÖ debacle, so now they leave it to national and transnational courts to see if the states behave unacceptable. You know the whole rule of law, democracy and national self determination.

[ingemann]

I disagree, if we look historical virulent anti-Semitism has existed in areas with significant Jewish population. Anti-Semitism based on general Christian or Islamic antipathy toward Jews rather than direct contact was usual more intellectual or symbolic.

At a guess (and being entirely serious for a change) the issue is that it's traditional by this point.

I see your point, it's a return to the good old day for many Hungarians, when the Hungarian minorities lived in Hungary, Hungary was more than a minor Central European state and Jews bashing was common.

[ingemann]

The EU should expel Hungary if Fisdez is re-elected (as long as they maintain an alliance with Jobbik.)

Kicking countries out of the EU because you don't like their election results. How democratic.

It isn't about election results, Fidesz is an authoritarian government which is trampling on civil liberties, political freedoms and democratic institutions.

According to half the posters on this board this describe every county in the world except USA, while according to the other half it describes USA. You can't run a confederation like EU with hyperbole, you have to set up a set of rules and someone to interpret them, and while the Hungarian government has behaved in a way, which would likely have kept them from becoming member if they were outside (as a single country can veto new member states), they have not behaved badly enough yet, that EU can throw them out. In fact the only way I can see Hungary realistic being thrown out of EU, short of doing something really moronic like removing the citizenship of or deport their native minorities, is if they legalise the death penalty.