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The_Texas_Libertarian
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« on: September 11, 2017, 05:49:53 PM »

That's too bad.  A rematch would be fun to watch.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 05:59:08 PM »

Was it sexism that brought her down?  No, of course not; it was the "All About Her" aspect of the campaign that folks gagged on.  Just enough folks to cause three blue states to flip.  Since it's still "All About Her", I expect her to at least attempt to run in 2020.  If she does, she'll lose the popular vote, because I doubt America would ever elect someone so obviously miserable.

The talking points of "sexism" and "misogyny" that allegedly prevented her from winning are ridiculous.  She received about 3 million more than Trump.  Jill Stein also saw her vote total nearly triple from roughly half a million to roughly 1.5 million.  I fail to see how "sexism" and "misogyny" caused her defeat and would really like to have it explained to me.  Preferably in non-SJW terminology, e.g. no, it wasn't because the male privilege used their vast right wing patriarchy power.  It seems like the left is so upset regarding the loss they are throwing every label out there and hoping one sticks so it can be used as a rallying theme in 2020
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2017, 08:59:35 PM »

Was it sexism that brought her down?  No, of course not; it was the "All About Her" aspect of the campaign that folks gagged on.  Just enough folks to cause three blue states to flip.  Since it's still "All About Her", I expect her to at least attempt to run in 2020.  If she does, she'll lose the popular vote, because I doubt America would ever elect someone so obviously miserable.

The talking points of "sexism" and "misogyny" that allegedly prevented her from winning are ridiculous.  She received about 3 million more than Trump.  Jill Stein also saw her vote total nearly triple from roughly half a million to roughly 1.5 million.  I fail to see how "sexism" and "misogyny" caused her defeat and would really like to have it explained to me.  Preferably in non-SJW terminology, e.g. no, it wasn't because the male privilege used their vast right wing patriarchy power.  It seems like the left is so upset regarding the loss they are throwing every label out there and hoping one sticks so it can be used as a rallying theme in 2020

But if it was actually explained to you, would you be willing to approach it with an open mind, and be willing to agree that yes, it was sexism that brought her down? Or have you already made up your mind that it isn't?

I have changed my mind on issues, heck I went from doing GOTV volunteer work for Obama in '08 to being ready to vote for Rand Paul.  Then Trump happened and I withheld my vote from major parties.  Based on what I see in the results there was no sexism that caused her loss.  Her lack of likeability, e-mail scandal, deploreable/irredeemable comments, lack of inspiration, lack of a campaign presence in Wisconsin/not solidifying the blue wall earlier, all in conjunction with the rise of the SJW cohort that is strongly associated with the left are some of the major players in her defeat. 

The fact that she beat Trump by roughly 3 million votes is pretty good evidence that sexism/misogyny was not a player.  A switch of ~200k votes in a few states would have led to Hillary's election.  Just like most things I know what I believe, but I also thought I made up my mind on other issues before just to watch myself change.  This stance is primarily based off the results of the popular vote, including the increase of votes for Jill Stein.

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If middle America is misogynist how does that account for the swing of many suburban counties towards Hillary?  In Texas she did better than Obama in nearly all the suburban counties; despite them staying red (GOP).  Or by middle America do you mean the small town areas?  Or a a region specifically like the rust belt?  A somewhat tighter definition of middle America would be good for the conversation.
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