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« on: April 10, 2013, 05:53:49 PM »

A good fellow with a gun would have promptly placed bullets into the stabber and prevented some of the damage.

Has this ever actually happened?

Probably not many times. Mostly because attackers have the moment of surprise on their side and already caused enough damage and killed themselves before some hero clinging to guns comes along and shoots the attacker dead.

True.  If private citizens with guns were stopping massacres every day Rush, and Fox News would be talking about it non stop.  They're not.  So what does that tell you?
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 09:43:26 PM »

A good fellow with a gun would have promptly placed bullets into the stabber and prevented some of the damage.

Has this ever actually happened?

Probably not many times. Mostly because attackers have the moment of surprise on their side and already caused enough damage and killed themselves before some hero clinging to guns comes along and shoots the attacker dead.

True.  If private citizens with guns were stopping massacres every day Rush, and Fox News would be talking about it non stop.  They're not.  So what does that tell you?


That because of good folks, there is no massacre, and no news. Thus, simpletons never hear of it.

Fox would be talking about that every chance they got.


When such incidents happen, they mention it. But why would you hear about it?


http://fox6now.com/2013/03/12/marine-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-man-from-beating-woman/

Charlie Blackmore was driving home from work at 4:00 a.m. along Lincoln Avenue when he saw something on the sidewalk. Blackmore didn’t realize it was a woman on the ground being kicked in the head and stomach until he got closer.


That’s when he jumped out of his car and sprung into action.

“I said ‘stop’ and he starts coming towards me and that`s when I drew on him. He started getting closer and I said ‘get down on the ground,’” Blackmore said.
Blackmore held his gun on the suspect and called West Allis police. He says several times while waiting for police to arrive, the attacker moved toward him.

Trust me with as many right wing trolls as there are on the internet we hear about this stuff ad nauseum when it happens.  I don't hear about it EVERY time but neither do I hear about all the gun crimes that happen either.  Frankly since I don't watch local news in an effort to preserve brain cells I only hear about gun crimes when they are heinous enough to make the national news.  To be honest with you I don't live in a world of wife beatings and home invaders with AK-47s.  I'm a cautious person but this threat of roving AK-47 gangs and swarms of government black helicopters you guys obsess about are not really a part of my life.

Sugary drinks are costing more lives than gun toting right wingers allegedly save.  Yet Bloomberg is routinely mocked by the far right.  The majority of Americans are obese or overweight.  Only a tiny fraction of the population has ever been in a life threatening situation with a criminal... and unlike cutting out excess sugar adding an extra random gun to a volatile situation has not been proven to have anywhere near the same level of universal efficacy.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 10:09:37 PM »

Are you implying that cutting out excess sugar is a better way to handle a volatile situation than someone trained in using a weapon? Because, you know, situations don't inherently have sugar in them.

One of the most imbecilic things I've ever read.

Removing excess sugar from the American diet will save more lives than having a mandatory gun in every house that has a wife beater.  Can't believe that is even something to argue about.  But it just illustrates the current state of mind of the far right.
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 10:39:25 PM »

Nobody's arguing for mandatory guns, Link, you're creating strawmen again.

The humor deficit in you curriculum is showing again.

Nobody's arguing for mandatory guns, Link, you're creating strawmen again.

The problem with removing excess sugar from the American diet is that diet is, inherently, a personal choice. While it may be a bad choice, once you allow the government to interfere in personal decisions (which don't affect anyone else), you open the door for a system that can easily be abused to interfere with your life. We've seen time and time again (in Prohibition, in the War on Drugs) how interference in personal choices has always been a costly and ultimately unsuccessful endeavor.

The government intervenes in personal choices all the time.  You just happened to cherry pick two examples and give your interpretation.  Wearing seatbelts is a personal choice and the government interventions have been a success.

I really doubt if you ban big gulps Colombian cartels, Chicago mobsters, and LA Street gangs are going to take over distribution and murder each other for turf.  I personally don't know what effect the ban would have if allowed to go forward.  You are still permitted to buy multiple drinks if you really want that volume of sugar water.  I think the point is the creep of empty calories is very insidious in the American diet.  If you travel you will realize that other countries are not full of crazy gym fanatics and dieters.  They just aren't trained to get huge drinks and servings at restaurants.  It never occurs to them to gorge themselves.  You speak of choice but the average person is not making a conscious choice.  Through psychology, marketing, and ignorance they are being trained to engage in unhealthy and harmful behavior.  I don't think if you inject someone with heroin for five year in year six if they crave heroin it can be argued to be a "personal choice."
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