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Some on the left hope that it will become their version of the Tea Party. So now Democrats too can deal with vocal supporters saying stupid things, embarrassing protests with ridiculous signs and slogans, the viral spread of vicious rumors and libelous misinformation about their electoral opponents, and primary challenges from naive, unqualified, inexperienced, ignorant candidates with no appeal to anyone outside the movement.

This might add a sense of balance to American politics (which would be good), but it's unfortunate that we need left-wing idiots to cancel out the right wing idiots.

Great more extremists.  I think the whole counter balance to the tea party thing has been cooked up by people on the right.  I just don't think there is enough of an idiocracy on the left to support such a movement.

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Yep, because protests against corporate greed and lack of serious reform must mean we hate any and all forms of capitalism.

Well, Tea Party protests against the President are supposedly based on racism so the Occupiers are clearly capitalism haters.

What goes around, comes around. Wait until we find some fun signs from your rallies.

A multiyear peer reviewed research study from Harvard clearly indicated that people from the Tea Party tended to be more uncomfortable with people from other races than other groups.  This was not something that was being stated by people like me the first week there were Tea Party protests.  This conclusion is based on data collected over time in an academic fashion.

The notion that the Tea Party is some bipartisan grass roots movement that is solely focused on economic issues has been debunked multiple times.  The first week they appeared on my radar screen I took them at their word.  As time has gone on it has become clear that they are the same old Republicans just loonier.

Furtermore the timing of the Tea Party anger really has to be questioned.  They sat silent through four Congressional election cycles and the minute Obama shows up now they are mad?  Hhhhmmmm....

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I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement.

Clever! Did you coin that yourself?

I mean, look at these hippies. They should drop the "counter-culture" act and start behaving respectably!


Come on, get a job and stop playing the victim card!

Wow.  This situation is really coming to a head.  What's next?!  Is someone going to nod off for a few seconds?  This is chaos!

Nice post Averroës Nix.

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Look at this instigator!  He must be a Satan worshiper.  He's dressed in all black.  You would never see someone dressed like him at a Tea Party event.  It really tells you something about Tea Party values.

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Keytone, you can't really expect us to take seriously a comparison of the Tea Party and the OWS group, can you?

I won't presume to answer for Keystone,, but I don't see anything wrong with the comparison. Both are decentralized groups of people who are angry and frustrated for many the same reasons.

The OWS movement has been around for what two weeks?  I don't think you can really draw any definite conclusions about it let alone start comparing it to a political group that has actually elected people.  The group is still in its infancy and is amorphous.  There have been multi year academic studies already done on the Tea Party.  It is a far more known quantity.  The characterizations of the OWS movement are mostly unsubstantiated generalizations with little objective evidence to back them up.  There is no concrete evidence that a small group of protestors in a few cities is supported by either political party.

The myth of the Tea Party being a spontaneous grass roots movement has been debunked.  It is Republican astro turf.

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I hope the President and Dems continue to embrace the Scumbagger movement

Yes, physical and spiritual fitness, books, socialized medicine, and healthy food.  I see how this would be an anathema to Republican right wingers.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/11/earlyshow/main20118475.shtml

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Uh...this thread is about people's opinions of the Scumbagger movement, not the Democrats.

wow.  Priests are scumbaggers now?!  Am I the only one that thinks Republicans have gone completely insane?  Mormons are cultists.  Priests are scumbaggers.  Can you tell us who you are NOT at war with?

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This is about taking bits and pieces of certain movements and labeling the entire group. I'm being as trollish as any of the other jokes around here that post pictures of misspelled, extreme and/or racist signs from Tea Parties. Of course, some of you have finally admitted that maybe treating all Tea Partiers like rabid dogs isn't exactly fair but many others have only dug in.

I would not call a multi year published peer reviewed Harvard study indicating that Tea Party members are more likely to be uncomfortable with members of other races "taking bits and pieces."  Tea Party members in general tend to be white, racist, and want a theocracy in America.  So says published research.  Not just a mindless troll on the internet.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

Take a break from listening to Rush Limbaugh and watching Fox Noise.  Read some peer reviewed studies and you may actually avoid making these blunders in the future.

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Tea Party members in general tend to be white, racist, and want a theocracy in America.

Uh. Haha, yeah, ok. I'm not going to take this serious anymore.

Whether you take it "serious" or not doesn't change the fact that it is true.  I get my FACTS about politics from peer reviewed publish journal articles, not partisan hack internet trolls.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html?_r=1

I post this information for people to read and come to there own conclusions.  I notice there is a dearth of links to peer reviewed articles backing up your ludicrous assertions in this thread.  I wonder why?

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I think you need to look up the definition of "theocracy" and "racism." You can continue to post blurbs in red font but that doesn't make it true.

Nice.  Only a Republican would say people that had "a low regard for blacks" were not racist.  We are finding out more and more about you, Keystone Phil.

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That is not a peer-reviewed article (lol).

Nope its not.  Its an op ed piece from the authors about their study.  Sometimes authors discuss their findings with newspapers, at conferences etc.  They are not mutually exclusive.

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Please explain it and post it in red so you think you're making a better point.

Okay, one more time.  Here are the findings of the study...

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Here is what your response was...

I think you need to look up the definition of "theocracy" and "racism." You can continue to post blurbs in red font but that doesn't make it true.

sickening.

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Also, you still don't understand what a "theocracy" is. Sickening. Aggravatingly ignorant. Predictable.

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http://blog.au.org/2011/08/17/poisonous-brew-beware-of-the-tea-party%E2%80%99s-theocratic-kool-aid/

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http://www.religiousrightwatch.com/2010/07/meet-the-theocratic-tea-party-and-its-inner-city-prayer-warrior-cousin.html

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http://www.care2.com/causes/tea-party-evolution-less-libertarian-more-religious-right.html#ixzz1aazI5MfZ

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http://atheism.about.com/b/2010/09/04/theocratic-tea-party-out-of-the-closet.htm

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http://www.examiner.com/tea-party-theocracy-in-portland

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http://marcovilla.instablogs.com/entry/the-tea-party-calls-for-theocracy/

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http://politicsandpucks.blogspot.com/2010/05/tea-party-advocates-theocracy-for-uk.html

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http://www.yesumulungi.com/index.php/commentaries/440-seeking-a-theocracy-us-evangelicals-fully-embrace-tea-party-politics.html

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I think you need to look up the definition of "theocracy" and "racism." You can continue to post blurbs in red font but that doesn't make it true.

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http://underthemountainbunker.com/2011/08/17/new-study-that-will-make-teaparty-members-even-angrier-then-they-are-now/

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How long are the lot of you going to keep this up?

The irony is you posted over an hour after people stopped posting.

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Anyway, my history teacher...

The problem with a lot of posters on this forum is they are teenagers with minimal real life experience who presume to know the struggles of people in their late twenties or thirties.  Life isn't as simple as you think it is young buck.  A lot of those protestors you "don't care about" were young idealists that did as they were told, got a solid education, obeyed the law, and at the end of it all all they got was six figures of student loan debt and a pink slip while Wall Street 1%ers get seven figure bonuses.

It is still too early for people on the right or left to characterize who these people are.  Some have college degrees and some are blue collar.  I think both you and your teacher are wrong.

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The Invaders display their brand of patriotism

Barbarians.

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I sort of sympathize with the police now. They have to look at these people every day! I think I'd snap and taze someone too.

Meh, if I was a cop I'd want to taze those tea party freaks too.

And now we see the true nature of our right wing friends.

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Phil's bitterness about all this is kind of hilarious.

The joke is on you then if you think I'd waste my time being bitter about these people. The only thing hilarious about any of this is how counterproductive they have been. I guess it's also amusing that so many of you have given up defending these clowns once you realized Tea Parties aren't the only ones with ridiculous signage sometimes, say ridiculous things, etc.

I wouldn't say I was so much defending the OWS crowd as I am pushing back against your bizarre distortions.  Frankly if you look back at my early comments about OWS I had severe misgivings about the movement but after reading your endless stream of mindless drivel I felt the need to interject some reality.  I haven't posted less.  I've posted more.  Even the Republican leadership is beginning to push back against people denigrating the movement.  Here's Romney...



Here's the rest of the GOP field...



Here's the rest of the planet...



Enjoy your bitterness... It's all you have left.

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So none of you have been trolling by picking out bits and pieces of Tea Party rallies and applying it to the whole movement?

No I was not posting cherry picked comments about the Tea Party two months after it first really hit the media.  I gave it the benefit of the doubt.  Years later a Harvard academic study proved this...

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So the Tea Party is filled with white racist religious extremist Republicans with only a small to nonexistent interest in small government... according to academic research.

In a few years when you have an academic study about OWS then feel free to post and we will compare and contrast.

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I wanted to sympathize...

I doubt it.

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Jupiter's gravity is 2.5 times that of earth's.  Screw the mass.  Give me the money!