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Question: Is sodomy sinful?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
#3
Not a Christian
 
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Total Voters: 38

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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« on: December 02, 2020, 09:48:36 AM »

I'm not going to vote in this ridiculous poll. I am certainly glad that I don't call myself "Christian".
It seems like half of Christians believe, for whatever reason, that this behavior is "sinful".
The anti-gay sentiment at this site is rather insane, of course.

So, in the minds of some so called "Christians", this is sinful, but only if your a "Christian". The question of the poll strongly implies this obviously. So, if you like this activity it is strongly recommended that you don't be a Christian.

Meanwhile Trump, popular among these kinds of "Christians" can kill, lie, cheat, steal and have more normal intimacy with a porn star and cover it up, and that's all right with them.

edit: and of course, in the minds of some Christians, sex itself is "original sin". (that was the message of the movie, "Inherit the Wind") So, if "Christians" want to be consistent they would stop having children, which would do wonders for the overpopulation problem.
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 02:12:17 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2020, 02:15:43 PM by A day to remember -117 »

I mean tcumsa's dirge aside, this is a ridiculous poll and flat out offensive to people to whom it forms part of their own sex life, that it even gets asked as a semi serious question. I'm admittedly in a pissy mood for other reasons today but I'm sick of these sorts of judgement polls on this board in particular.
I agree.

The point of my "rant" was simple. Get your minds on what's really important instead of
worrying about things that are none of your business anyway.

I don't know how many people still think that sex = original sin, but the point is that people
have a weird obsession with other peoples' personal lives.

This is the second idiotic poll, the previous one was about how pornography is demonic.

edit: and lets not forget this problem some people have with gay marriage is rather absurd.
Marriage is supposed to be about monogamy (not that a lot of people don't cheat), so you think people that have an issue with sex would want to encourage monogamy.
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 02:22:52 PM »

I'm not going to vote in this ridiculous poll. I am certainly glad that I don't call myself "Christian".
It seems like half of Christians believe, for whatever reason, that this behavior is "sinful".
The anti-gay sentiment at this site is rather insane, of course.

So, in the minds of some so called "Christians", this is sinful, but only if your a "Christian". The question of the poll strongly implies this obviously. So, if you like this activity it is strongly recommended that you don't be a Christian.

Meanwhile Trump, popular among these kinds of "Christians" can kill, lie, cheat, steal and have more normal intimacy with a porn star and cover it up, and that's all right with them.

edit: and of course, in the minds of some Christians, sex itself is "original sin". (that was the message of the movie, "Inherit the Wind") So, if "Christians" want to be consistent they would stop having children, which would do wonders for the overpopulation problem.

Wow

The OP explicitly states "regardless of the sex of participants".

No one said that this is sinful only if you are a Christian.
The thread title says "Christians only" because the question is directed only to Christians, not because it is implied that this behaviour is sinful only when committed by Christians.

There is no proof that the people who voted Yes like Trump? Also when did Trump kill?

Inherit The Wind is a film that uses a fictionalized version of the Scopes Monkey Trial as a metaphor to condemn McCarthyism. What does it have to do with sex? And I don't see Christians saying that procreative sex is bad or sinful.

To be fair, "actually all sex is kinda bad" is an attested, and in some eras has been a widespread, position in Christian moral theology. It's just not currently prevalent in any otherwise orthodox denomination.


I'm pretty sure the only people who taught that sex was evil were heretics who were refuted by the Church
IIRC a lot of this goes back to Augustine, who certainly was no heretic:

He had a personal experience for which I think he felt shame:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Childhood_and_education

As for his views on sex:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Sexuality

I wrote a dissertation on Augustine's theology 40 years ago, so my memory of his theology is not perfect.

Augustine also came up with the oxymoron on just war, which haunts us to this day:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Just_war


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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 03:17:31 PM »
« Edited: December 02, 2020, 03:23:26 PM by A day to remember -117 »

"Well, the reason it's a semi-serious question is because religious leaders have made it so. Complain to them, not me. I don't think it should be an issue either, but sadly I'm not able to control those things. Given that, I don't see what's wrong with polling Atlas on a topic like this that has often proved divisive among Christians."

The problem is with anyone that would vote "yes" in this poll, no so much with the poll itself.

..and also with anyone who would call pornography "demonic" which sounds like something Pat Robertson would say. (and it is humorous, by the way, that even he thinks Trump's "I won" delusion is ridiculous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5UnClxnVvA see 4:49 in video)
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tmcusa2
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,251
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 03:27:07 PM »

I mean tcumsa's dirge aside, this is a ridiculous poll and flat out offensive to people to whom it forms part of their own sex life, that it even gets asked as a semi serious question. I'm admittedly in a pissy mood for other reasons today but I'm sick of these sorts of judgement polls on this board in particular.

Well, the reason it's a semi-serious question is because religious leaders have made it so. Complain to them, not me. I don't think it should be an issue either, but sadly I'm not able to control those things. Given that, I don't see what's wrong with polling Atlas on a topic like this that has often proved divisive among Christians.

Because you sound like your intention is to ignite flames, like a guy who brings up some painful past episode at a dinner with friends just to see them have a row.
Perhaps that is why the average poster comes to this site (whether they are willing to admit it or not).
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