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Devils30
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« on: May 13, 2024, 10:24:42 PM »
« edited: May 13, 2024, 10:42:23 PM by Devils30 »

No, but if Trump gets 2021 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2024, 10:42:05 PM »

No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?

Yes, my bad! I think if Trump really has a multiracial working class coalition he can win Cumberland, Atlantic and Gloucester.
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2024, 10:48:00 PM »

No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?

Yes, my bad! I think if Trump really has a multiracial working class coalition he can win Cumberland, Atlantic and Gloucester.

I wonder if he could also make gains in the shore area, it’s basically NJ’s Long Island.

Definitely. I don't expect Trump to flip places like Morris back. But given the Dems move toward leftism, you wonder if their progress stagnates and Trump still wins Hunterdon and keeps Biden under 20 in Somerset.
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2024, 11:19:15 PM »

No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?

Yes, my bad! I think if Trump really has a multiracial working class coalition he can win Cumberland, Atlantic and Gloucester.

I wonder if he could also make gains in the shore area, it’s basically NJ’s Long Island.

Definitely. I don't expect Trump to flip places like Morris back. But given the Dems move toward leftism, you wonder if their progress stagnates and Trump still wins Hunterdon and keeps Biden under 20 in Somerset.

Honestly I think if Biden moves too far left on the Israel issue then Trump has a shot at winning the county back (and also flipping back NJ-07).

Even if Biden wins it by a couple, Kean Jr. likely survives. Of course if Trump wins, Kean is DOA in 2026.
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,102
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E: -2.06, S: -4.00

« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2024, 11:42:07 PM »

No, but if Trump gets 2017 Gov level numbers in south Jersey he could keep the state around 6-9%.

You mean 2021?

Yes, my bad! I think if Trump really has a multiracial working class coalition he can win Cumberland, Atlantic and Gloucester.

I wonder if he could also make gains in the shore area, it’s basically NJ’s Long Island.

Definitely. I don't expect Trump to flip places like Morris back. But given the Dems move toward leftism, you wonder if their progress stagnates and Trump still wins Hunterdon and keeps Biden under 20 in Somerset.

Honestly I think if Biden moves too far left on the Israel issue then Trump has a shot at winning the county back (and also flipping back NJ-07).

I don't think people misunderstand the politics of these high-education suburban communities where Dems have been making massive gains. These voters hate Trump, Trumpism, and increasingly the modern Republican Party as a whole. No significant chunk are going to flip back to Republicans just because Joe Biden does one think they dislike on foreign policy - Biden would have to start actually becoming an aggressive progressive in his rhetoric and actions which is not going to happen.

I think Biden is very likely to win Morris County and Biden probably carries NJ-07 again Presidentially. It's more likely both go to >Biden + 10 than Trump winning them outright.

Yes, during at least the Trump era. But Sanders and Warren did very poorly in the 2020 primary in these types of places. If Dems go in this direction, don't be shocked if you get Miami-Dade (maybe not that extreme) like swings back to the right in 2028 or 2032.
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