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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 07, 2021, 09:40:25 PM »

Of course they can settle at 2.5 trillion
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,075
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E: -2.06, S: -4.00

« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2021, 05:02:24 PM »

Jesus Christ, can the Congressional Dems caucuses please go five minutes without shooting themselves in the foot?

Just pass the damn bills.  There's no good reason to connect one to the other.  Passing the infrastructure bill isn't going to do anything to the reconciliation bill, but it's very important for the party.  Killing the infrastructure bill as a hostage-taking tactic to get the reconciliation bill passed is just absurdly self-destructive.

And there's no good reason not to pass the reconciliation bill.  Manchin is being an idiot.  There's absolutely no reason to "pause" anything.  The nation isn't going to fall apart because there were too many policy changes in one year.

We desperately need one or two more senators.  It's nice that we have Manchin holding a seat in WV of all places but having him as the swing vote is really hurting our agenda.  I mean it's way better than having some right-wing Republican in the seat, but it would be really nice if we could make his vote irrelevant for the more ambitious aspects of our agenda.

With that said, remember that we're extremely lucky to be in this position at all.  If we didn't have Manchin -- or didn't have Sinema -- or didn't win both Georgia seats -- it would be Mitch McConnell just blocking everything.

Not passing anything sounds bad to progressives but probably doesn't impact much if anything electorally. Passing nothing also makes it hard for Rs to run against spending and gives them no target like Obamacare was. Running against Trump and his cronies is more effective than running on something, sad but completely true.
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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E: -2.06, S: -4.00

« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2021, 08:12:26 PM »

ING BOOM ING NUT



Progressives will whine but immigration reform is not budgetary and really not something done with reconciliation.
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Devils30
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,075
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.06, S: -4.00

« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2021, 01:05:49 PM »

I really don't think they should rush by 10/31 just to help McAuliffe. First of all he probably wins regardless. If he loses, yeah that's bad but I'll take the trade over getting a better bill. Early & mail voting are already going on so the effect of 10/31 will be on election day in person basically.

Most of VA is going to vote that way though.

And I get that it shouldn't be "rushed", but let's be honest, Dems have had a LOT of time to do this, so Halloween shouldn't even be considered rushed at this point. This sh**t should've been done a month ago. They should be working 24/7 day in and day out on this to get this done ASAP, which is what is most frustrating to me.

The solution for now is to agree to a 2T ish framework and then let the BIB get voted on in the House. The far left needs to realize that America doesn't have a Cuban style revolution in the making and get its head out of its ass.
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