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Inverted Things
Avelaval
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« on: February 14, 2006, 01:01:37 PM »

The evidence from facts that 1)the universe exists and 2) its laws state that entropy can’t decrease and that energy can not be created or destroyed by natural forces…testify that the existence of the universe itself requires a God.

This again? This is you jumping to conclusions to satisfy your own beliefs, not empirical proof of the existence of a god. It could simply be explained by natural forces which we don't currently understand.

The fact remains that every single experiment and/or process ever observed in the history of man has supported the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics.  Even the newly discovered Dark Energy supports them.

So, I wish you good luck finding a way to invent yourself.


How many times do I have to tell you? The 2nd law of thermodymanics just says entropy will PROBABLY increase. It can decrease, it's just not terribly likely.
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Inverted Things
Avelaval
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2006, 01:23:25 PM »

Imagine a universe which has reached the "heat death" stage. We can describe it as a completely disordered closed system. Time, however, is still ticking by. The odds of a spontaneous converging of everything to a single point is very very small, but not non-zero. When you have an infinite amount of time to work with the nearly impossible must happen simply on the basis of the fact that it is not impossible.

Thus, the converging of everything to a single point must happen at some time.
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