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Avelaval
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« on: November 19, 2005, 02:38:58 PM »


exactly education and a good paying job so you can afford children should come before children and marriage.  unforuntely I think it's to politicial incorrect to say this  so no politician will say it. 

I think we have to realistic and compassionate, so long as people are deserving of that compassion.  We shouldn't write people off just because they make a mistake, so long as they are willing to make the effort to put things right.  The problem with many poor people is that they have had an entitlement mentality bred into them, and they're not willing to get themselves over the hump.

Agreed in principle, but the big question is this: Why should the kid be punished for the faults of the parents?

About entitlement mentality, no demographic demonstrates this trait more than senior citizens. Senior citizens complain about welfare while cashing checks from the government and getting discounts everywhere.

By the way, I disapprove of the welfare reform act. I have no problem leaving chronically poor and unmotivated people to their own devices, but their children deserve a chance.
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Avelaval
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2005, 12:46:18 AM »


exactly education and a good paying job so you can afford children should come before children and marriage.  unforuntely I think it's to politicial incorrect to say this  so no politician will say it. 

I think we have to realistic and compassionate, so long as people are deserving of that compassion.  We shouldn't write people off just because they make a mistake, so long as they are willing to make the effort to put things right.  The problem with many poor people is that they have had an entitlement mentality bred into them, and they're not willing to get themselves over the hump.

Agreed in principle, but the big question is this: Why should the kid be punished for the faults of the parents?

About entitlement mentality, no demographic demonstrates this trait more than senior citizens. Senior citizens complain about welfare while cashing checks from the government and getting discounts everywhere.

By the way, I disapprove of the welfare reform act. I have no problem leaving chronically poor and unmotivated people to their own devices, but their children deserve a chance.

The problem is this -- welfare laws that were intended to safeguard the well being of children hurt them grievously because they encouraged people who were unsuitable to be parents to have children.  Once these children are born, they will be abused, neglected, etc. even if the parents (or more commonly, parent) are collecting welfare that is supposedly to be used for benefit of the children.

It is a counterintuitive thing, but I think that making it more difficult and unattractive for these sorts of people to have and keep children is much kinder toward children than a policy that encourages and subsidizes such people to have children.

Unfortunately it is inevitable that some children will get abused and neglected. This happens even in privileged households. Unfortunately, any idiot can have children if he/she can find a person of the opposite sex. Leaving those unfit to be parents to their own devices will result in more abuse and neglect since these children won't be connected with a raise in fortunes.
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