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« on: June 21, 2018, 10:43:50 AM »


Someone should explain to him that it's really not necessary to hold mass protests in support of positions the White House already has.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2018, 06:07:12 PM »

Are we really afraid of 200 Nazis?  Aren't there like, 3 million people in DC alone that would love to yell things at proud racists? and beat the snot out of them if sh**t goes sideways?  Let the bigots march, show 'em how many more non-bigots there are.


You don't let a snake-oil salesman sell poison as medicine.

You don't let someone put a pile of dog feces on the table at the potluck.

And you don't let someone falsely shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, because it untrue and because it's dangerous.

Why provide a prominent platform and a free publicly to people who would do away with platforms and forums for everyone but themselves?
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 01:58:19 AM »

Sooo... I'm debating whether I should swing by the rally and take pictures or avoid it all together. Any thoughts?
Sanchez and I will be there for research purposes.

Doing a joint paper on the evolution of tiki-torch holding among young single white males?
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 04:28:12 PM »

Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

The counterprotestors are there specifically to escalate things.

This cannot be overemphasized.

And the Nazis are going to arguably the most Democratic city in the country aren't there to escalate things?

I know that leftists want to abolish place and history, but even you should know that ceremonies held in Washington, D.C. take on a significance beside that of being held in a city.
Are you really that daft? Do you know anything about Confederate monuments?

Here's to hoping both the Nazis and the people out there counter protesting can get their act together and not escalate things.  

The counterprotestors are there specifically to escalate things.

This cannot be overemphasized.
Yes, the counterprotestors are the problem. Not the people screaming 'race war now' or 'gas the k*kes' or the ones openly carrying guns or the ones who actually killed a person last year


Just imagine how peaceful the 1930s and 1940s could have been without all those problem people getting in the way of Imperial Japanese bullets, or declaring war on poor, innocent Germany? It's such a peaceful world the Republicans want. One where everyone but themselves is dead or a silent slave.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 04:31:06 PM »
« Edited: August 12, 2018, 04:39:41 PM by Ghost of Ruin »

As you have indicated, the vast majority of Confederate monuments were erected in the 1910's & 20's when Southern states were enacting Jim Crow laws.
There was also a significant, yet smaller spike in the 1950's & 60's during the Civil Rights movement.

See this graphic on this website (link below), showing the numbers and distribution of monuments over time. The article also points out that:
The chart illustrates upticks in the construction of Confederate monuments on courthouse grounds after the landmark Plessy v. Ferguson case in 1896 upheld state segregation laws. The construction of monuments outside of schools jumped after the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education ruling, in which the Supreme Court deemed state laws segregating public schools to be unconstitutional.

So you can drop your "leftists want to abolish place and history" shtick.
All the evidence above shows that Southerners weren't really concerned about "history" when erecting these monuments. But instead, it was about using them as symbols of hate and intimidation.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/718507/striking-graphic-reveals-construction-confederate-monuments-peaked-during-jim-crow-civil-rights-eras

Southern states started enacting Jim Crow laws in the late 19th century, though. Plus, as your graph indicates, the largest spike in public Confederate commemoration was already on the decline when the Klan was reformed in the 1910s. If anything, the strongest correlation is with the aging of Civil War veterans and the passage of the Civil War from people's living memory. Which makes perfect sense.

It "makes perfect sense" to Neo-Nazis, Klansmen and white supremacists.

It makes sense to the people whose forefathers bore the bruntstarted and relentlessly pursued of the most destructive war in the history of the United States in order to defend slavery.

Fixed it for you.

You're welcome.
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 05:24:00 PM »

That hilarious moment when people seriously think some dumb, edgy "Nazis" shouting ignorant stuff is the same thing as real Nazis that actually invaded other countries, murdered millions of people, and tortured many more.

The 'real Nazis' didn't start out by committing crimes against humanity. They started out shouting ignorant stuff and getting violent in the streets.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 12:49:41 AM »

My ancestors fought to secure freedom and independence for their homeland, and to defend their homes and their families against hostile, pillaging invaders. They went through hell to do it.
They hardly had as much as two coins to rub together, asserting that they were fighting and sacrificing their lives "for money" or to defend some rich peoples' wealth is not so much laughable as it is a horrible distortion of the truth.

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Your ancestors fought to keep millions of men, women and children in bondage, pain and suffering, for the economic benefit of the society in which they lived. I don't care what other excuses they had. Nothing justifies that. Their war, which they began, was unjust. And the biggest tragedy is that, for all the price in blood and death and pain that was paid, their descendents in blood or ideology did not learn that they were wrong.



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