a question on libertarianism

[Bono]

Thirdly there are the anarchocapitalists.  They don't really care that much about personal freedom, but are adamite about corporations having rights and being as above the law as possible.  In reallity they are closer to Feregi than Libertarian, but they try and label themselves libertarian anyway.

No we aren't. You are possibly the most intellectually dishonest person in this forum, if not whom I have ever met. I'm yet to find an anarcho-capitalist who believes corporations should even exist. So take your strawmen elsewhere.

[Bono]

It's its own philosophy.  Actually, I figure there's 3-4 different groups of people who call themselves libertarians.

There's the purist libertarians, who I have yet to decipher, but are pretty much dedicated to the concept of personal liberty first and formost.  To quote the movie demolition man:

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Then there's the Reform libertarians who are more moderate and actually have some ideas which might not be so bad.  They tend to be pragmatic, along with a relatively positive view of human nature.  (yes, adults are responsible enough to be trusted to run their own lives).

Thirdly there are the anarchocapitalists.  They don't really care that much about personal freedom, but are adamite about corporations having rights and being as above the law as possible.  In reallity they are closer to Feregi than Libertarian, but they try and label themselves libertarian anyway.

Then there's the folks who pretty much lack a political philosophy beyond being irrationally opinionated, though the only freedom they tend to advocate is their right to make a public fool of themselves.

Anarcho-Capitalists are by no means libertarians.  They are called authoritarian-right wingers... aka The Republican Party/Neo-Conservative movement.  They seek to have stronger control over your personal life while dimantling social programs and handing out breaks to corporations.

I didn't think it was possible to be this retarded.

What part of "ANARCHO" don't you understand?

[Bono]

It's its own philosophy.  Actually, I figure there's 3-4 different groups of people who call themselves libertarians.

There's the purist libertarians, who I have yet to decipher, but are pretty much dedicated to the concept of personal liberty first and formost.  To quote the movie demolition man:

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Then there's the Reform libertarians who are more moderate and actually have some ideas which might not be so bad.  They tend to be pragmatic, along with a relatively positive view of human nature.  (yes, adults are responsible enough to be trusted to run their own lives).

Thirdly there are the anarchocapitalists.  They don't really care that much about personal freedom, but are adamite about corporations having rights and being as above the law as possible.  In reallity they are closer to Feregi than Libertarian, but they try and label themselves libertarian anyway.

Then there's the folks who pretty much lack a political philosophy beyond being irrationally opinionated, though the only freedom they tend to advocate is their right to make a public fool of themselves.

Anarcho-Capitalists are by no means libertarians.  They are called authoritarian-right wingers... aka The Republican Party/Neo-Conservative movement.  They seek to have stronger control over your personal life while dimantling social programs and handing out breaks to corporations.

I didn't think it was possible to be this retarded.

What part of "ANARCHO" don't you understand?

Anarcho-capitalists are people who seek to put control over other people but seek to live free of government control.  Since they can get the vote of the social conservatives by pandering to them and making laws that reflect those values, they win elections.  They are the rich ones that benefit from their ultra-capitalist policies and thus have the money and power to ignore all those stupid laws that the lower downs so reverently demand/follow.

How old are you Bono?  13?  Because you're acting like a middle-schooler.  I haven't seen you contribute one notable thing to this thread other than to attack others and call people names. 

I guess it would be you that doesn't understand anarcho-capitalist ways in the real world.  Sure, the dictionary definition might be slightly different.. but name one person who wields political power that seeks to get rid of government and push pro-capitalist powers and has any real effect.

Anarcho-capitalists win elections?
Well, this certainly fills me with joy, because I hadn't even heard of any anarcho-capitalists running for office, much less winning anything.
Do you even know what anarcho-capitalism is?
Here's a brief introduction from wikipedia:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho_capitalism

[Bono]

Just my two cents worth here.

Anarcho-capitalism is neo-feudal bull from my own libertarian stand point.

There isn't a cat in hells chance I would ever support the free market regulating and controling systems of justice, governance and law. Those are the core duties of the state. And yes the state has a place in society. It should be slim and accountable but it should not be replaced by unnacountable profit seeking conglomerations.

That is of course, offered absolutely proof-free.

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The well being of "society" can never be determined becuase interpresonal comparisons of utility are not possible. Anyways, if someone really wants to set up an ecological sanctuary, they are free to do so. In most cases,t hose lands are dirt cheap anyways.

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Well, regarding James, he is compltelly intellectually disonhest and was making a deliberate misrepresentation, because there is no way in hell he is that dumb.
As for snowguy, have you even read what he posted? I think it speaks for itself.

[Bono]

Just my two cents worth here.

Anarcho-capitalism is neo-feudal bull from my own libertarian stand point.

There isn't a cat in hells chance I would ever support the free market regulating and controling systems of justice, governance and law. Those are the core duties of the state. And yes the state has a place in society. It should be slim and accountable but it should not be replaced by unnacountable profit seeking conglomerations.

That is of course, offered absolutely proof-free.

...as if anarcho-capitalism has any more proof.  Look, there's never been an anarcho-capitalist society, so no matter how many metaphors and generalizations you give, you won't be able to prove that anarcho-capitalism works unless you go out and create an anarcho-capitalist society.

Celtic Ireland 650-1650

Anyways, you're operating under empiricism ad extremis.

[Bono]

don't worry, these are people who make assumptions based on what they think they know, not by what's real.
Anarcho-capitalism is in no way authoritarian as it is against force.  Force is what makes something authoritarian.
It also isn't pro-corporation above individual rights.  When the red avatars learn that individual rights and business rights are aligned together against government.  Not government and individual against business, they could then undertand that it is government that elevates business to the level where they could become monopolies.  The only way a monopoly can exist is by means of government.

I think you're making an assumption based on what you think you know...you seriously don't think monopolies can exist on a free market? Do you have any idea whatsoever about the functioning of markets?

A monopoly isn't really a monopoly unless it can't be dislodge by legal means. A natural monopoly only occurs becuase one company is more efficient than all its cmpetitors.