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afleitch
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« on: January 11, 2009, 03:08:44 PM »
« edited: January 11, 2009, 03:23:15 PM by afleitch »


It's a taste issue.

Just because it's easy for people to sit on a forum and make fun of two mountaineers who have died in an accident doesn't mean that we should. If anyone is making light of it because 'they are rich lolz' then that's just pathetic.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 04:23:03 PM »

If anyone is making light of it because 'they are rich lolz' then that's just pathetic.
Buying yourself a rather tastelessly gushing obituary on the Beeb isn't possible to the descendants of unknowns (or even D-list celebs) from the lower 98% of the population.

Al taking sufficient offense to that idiot piece to post it here is probably class-related as well. As to your taking his offense to his thead, the reasons are slightly more opaque, but knowing my Britishers Tongue taste played less of a role than intra-moiety solidarity.
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I don't think you can 'buy' tributes on the BBC. These sorts of tributes appear on the BBC all the time and for all sorts of people (and incomes) 'Tributes paid to 73 year old grandmother who died in house fire' that sort of thing are on the BBC all the time.

I my offense was not opaque, or was it anything to do with some intra-class solidiarity. I'm not of their class. I'm essentially working class, those are my roots and I hold down a low paid civil service job which might, just might conceivably nudge my chin into the lower middle class Smiley I live in the same housing estate where my grandparents lived 200 yards from the mines they worked. The idea I'm indulging in 'intra-moiety solidarity' is absurd.

I just believed it was in poor taste to make fun at an obituary to two people who died, before their parents had even flown to see their bodies.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 04:50:04 PM »


Which was precisely why I put "moiety" instead. The Class structure of Britain is pretty complex after all. (Though still so simple that one can actually make an attempt at describing it. Which means it's one of the least complex in the world. Grin ) You're on the same side of the biggest of the numerous curtains. (Private school education is a major giveaway here. As is political party, of course - though merely voting for that particular party isn't, really.)


I went to a private school on part scholarship/charity, part Assisted Places, part fees. I went because they wanted me and I didn't want to go to the designated local school to face rather bigger and taller bullies who had beaten the sh-t out of me at primary Smiley Because I was really psychologically f-cked up as a result. The school had a huge 'working class' uptake (60 to 40) because it was charity dependent and attached to the Church.

It's easy for people to make judgments (not that I'm saying you are! Just a general point here) based on these places or the people who go to them without knowing much about either.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 04:52:45 PM »

If they had died in a house firing doing nothing wrong I'd agree with you.  I don't hold much sympathy for people that die doing extremely dangerous things.  Even less for people doing something only a very small percentage of people can afford to do.

It's about having sympathy for their families and those they left behind. You couldn't honestly say that if another Space Shuttle (heaven forbid) blew up, full of people doing an 'extremely dangerous thing' you wouldn't have sympathy for those left on the ground who have to pick up the pieces?
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 04:13:30 PM »
« Edited: January 12, 2009, 04:17:01 PM by afleitch »

I went to a private school on part scholarship/charity, part Assisted Places, part fees.
So?
I don't think that's particularly relevant. Ruling castes coopt new blood and satisfy their conscience in one go by letting a few scholarship boys into the Public Schools, nothing new to see here. -_- Yeah, I understand you didn't exactly go to Eton or Winchester, which makes this not entirely fair. Cheers, mate. 

You know nothing of my world Smiley My school was seriously under funded and resourced when I started. It was a rollercoaster ride of out of date text books, creaky floors and 60 year old desks Grin
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