Mideast Assembly Thread

[afleitch]

Just letting you know, I'll be in London all next week and unable to get on the interweb.

[afleitch]

I'll be happy to introduce it as it aligns our election regulations with those of federal government

[afleitch]

I congratulate the members of the Assembly on their reelection. Are there any objections to me staying on as Speaker?

Not from this corner

[afleitch]

Apologies folks. Aye - for uniformity alone.

[afleitch]

Apologies folks. Aye - for uniformity alone.

To both? or just the 3rd Amendment?

Look above for the 2nd Amendment.

Aye on the 2nd Amendment. It's unusual to have more than one bill on the floor (Not to say that's a bad thing ) so I didn't scroll up.

[afleitch]

Excellent Thank you both for responding to my initial 'nudge' on issues outstanding like these. I'll read through them

[afleitch]

I am in favour of PS's Bill. I don't have objections or amendments at this time.

[afleitch]

I am in favour of PS's Bill. I don't have objections or amendments at this time.

I do have one question about that, and sorry for invading here:

How are the public schools going to be ranked? What system will be used to determine that 1 to 10 rating? Will it correspond with the percentage of the overall funding that each "group" is going to receive?


I think it's a good bill, BTW.

Fair point. If it was Scotland I'd use the Social Deprivation Index which measures stats like crime, access to employment, access to amenities, income, family size etc which gives a deprivation ranking. But as it isn't I'm not sure what precise system can be used. I'll need to see what system the 'US' government uses if any.

Rankings should probably not be as arbitary as 10 percentiles, but more weighted to ensure that as many schools qualify as possible. So perhaps the bottom 20% of the scale are ranked '1'...needs headscratching!

[afleitch]

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Taxes on these products are levied federally through the National Sin Tax Act...however the Act also allows for regions to tax these products too. So we could certainly raise money that way.

[afleitch]

Oh ok, like I said just trying to get involved. If you guys need anything just ask me and I will try to do my best at it.

Oh please get involved I was just saying that your idea to raise revenue through tobaccos taxation could be done using exisiting legislation - which makes it quite a tempting one.

[afleitch]

I have a proposal for a basic idea for an act the we might want to enact. I believe that we are overextending ourselves to criminals and not providing enough help for the victims of a crime. In the Constitution, the Bill of Rights is littered with protection for the accused. We must extend the same courtesy to those who are victimized. Normally, people do not receive government support when they are robbed and/or physically assaulted, even after the attacker is put in jail. We should extend a plan to help the victimized.
Normally, I do not encourage the enlargement of the government, but in this case, I feel for the people who have been victimized, and I want to put into effect a bill that provides states support for those families who have been victimized within the state's jurisdiction.

What type of help are you talking about?

It sounds very similar to the role of the government organisation I actually work for here in Britain

[afleitch]

I have a proposal for a basic idea for an act the we might want to enact. I believe that we are overextending ourselves to criminals and not providing enough help for the victims of a crime. In the Constitution, the Bill of Rights is littered with protection for the accused. We must extend the same courtesy to those who are victimized. Normally, people do not receive government support when they are robbed and/or physically assaulted, even after the attacker is put in jail. We should extend a plan to help the victimized.
Normally, I do not encourage the enlargement of the government, but in this case, I feel for the people who have been victimized, and I want to put into effect a bill that provides states support for those families who have been victimized within the state's jurisdiction.

What type of help are you talking about?

Monetary help to cover for damage to their lives and possessions.

That's exactly the scheme that I work for. Unfortunately as a civil servant I genuinely have to be careful of my position on public forums, so I may not be able to contribute much in public to this idea other than give general guidance on what our scheme does and who it awards monies too which is public domain.

[afleitch]

I don't understand the purpose of this.  Why wouldn't we just settle compensation stuff like this in civil court, where the victim takes the guilty party to court for a civil case.

I just don't see the need to spend government money on this, unless we set up a government system as compensation of last resort.

The UK has operated a compensation scheme for 45 years. It operates in such a way that court costs and any monies awarded through a civil claim are deducted from the final award. It is to be extended to include a 'victims fund' where the state forces the criminal to compensate the victim.

It's not an expensive system to run and it particularly compensates children who are victims of sexual abuse because the monies are held in trust and are not eaten up by legal fees or mis-spent by guardians. Claims can be made for children on their behalf by parents, guardians and social servies if they are moved into care because of the abuse.

[afleitch]

Aye

[afleitch]

Okay, let's finish this.

The Mideast Victim Compensation Act

1. Any person victim of a crime committed in the Mideast shall be compensated by the regional Government under the conditions set forth by this Act.
2. Victims will be compensated for:
     a. Loss of life of a member of the immediate family.
     b. Approved medical treatment/rehabilitation for a period not exceeding two years from the beginning of treatment.
     c. Loss of material possessions, the value of which shall be evaluated by the victim's insurance provider or, if none is provided, an independent insurance company employed by the region.
3. No person shall be reimbursed by the region if there exists a plausible alternative method to receive compensation for the crime.
4. Compensation shall be determined by an independent council of three justices, who shall judge the nature of the crime, whether all other plausible alternatives have been attempted and what amount shall be paid to the victim. This amount shall be calculated as the amount determined less amounts already received through alternative means.
5. Compensation shall be paid for by a 1% sales tax increase on gun purchases.

Tax increase? Especially on guns? That basically violates the right to bear arms.

A tax increase on food does not violate the right to eat.

[afleitch]

Aye on the compensation bill.

[afleitch]

Nay on the gun bill if it can be deemed to be unconstitutional.

Also on an aside, I will be out of the country from tomorrow till Monday.

[afleitch]

Nay.

Moving the seat of government and all it's institutions would cost many millions and combined with the logistics of such an operation, at a time of economic crisis I feel that this sends this sends out the wrong message to the Mideast.

[afleitch]

In the sad eventuality that this crap passes, I plan to push for a public referendum.

Supported.

Persepolis, personal belief can be respected, but that is all it is. It cannot, in this form be the basis for public law. Any moves to ban abortion will be met with severe opposition. Your position will also be met with severe opposition and you're just in the door...

[afleitch]

What's our civil union legislation? At what age can someone have a civil union? Obviously if it's 16 etc...

[afleitch]

I also ask for a public vote on this statute

Afleitch x

[afleitch]

I wish to put myself forward as a ConCon delegate

[afleitch]

I thank the Assembly for it's confidence

[afleitch]

I nominate Inks.LWC for Speaker

Seconded

[afleitch]

Please note the following bill is tabled.

Third Mideast Abortion Statute


1: No abortions shall be permitted after the First Trimester without the positive consent of two qualified and registered physicians. No abortions shall be permitted after the 180th day of a pregnancy except in the cases of threat to the mother's health or a pregnancy caused by rape and/or incest.
2: Any individual who induces a prohibited abortion shall have any existing license from the Mideast Region or a subdivision thereof to practice a medical profession revoked for up to five years.
3: Any individual who induces a prohibited abortion shall be sentenced to up to one year in prison and/or a fine of up to $50,000. Any person knowingly facilitating the inducement of a prohibited abortion shall be subject to a criminal fine of up to $10,000 and/or six months in prison.
4: The Second Mideast Abortion statute is hereby repealed.

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Assemblymen please note that this bill is a 'compromise' between the existing statute and the first ststaue.