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BigSkyBob
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« on: September 14, 2011, 09:28:59 PM »

Socially conservative societies will tend towards demographic growth, while socially liberal societies will tend towards demographic decline. As a result, over time, the pool of immigrants will be more socially conservative every generation. We are witnessing, more or less, demographic transformation occuring in Israel and Turkey right now as the more socially conservative religious elements reproduce faster than secular folk.

On life, the pro-life either win by winning, or win by losing. A research study in Australian demonstrated that genetics plays a role in shaping ones attitude towards abortion. Those with genes more favorable to abortion will, eventually, abort themselves out of the gene pool. As long as abortion is legal, the genetic propensity towards being pro-life will increase every generation.
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 12:28:17 PM »

Socially conservative societies will tend towards demographic growth, while socially liberal societies will tend towards demographic decline. As a result, over time, the pool of immigrants will be more socially conservative every generation. We are witnessing, more or less, demographic transformation occuring in Israel and Turkey right now as the more socially conservative religious elements reproduce faster than secular folk.

On life, the pro-life either win by winning, or win by losing. A research study in Australian demonstrated that genetics plays a role in shaping ones attitude towards abortion. Those with genes more favorable to abortion will, eventually, abort themselves out of the gene pool. As long as abortion is legal, the genetic propensity towards being pro-life will increase every generation.

Your hypothesis relies on Darwinian natural selection to be true, you know.


No.
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 12:47:16 PM »

To me, the entire idea of social conservatism and social liberalism as we understand it today was mostly irrelevant before the 1960s and the sexual revolution.

As a social historian I would disagree with you strongly on that matter. If you look at societies where the sexual revolution really did not happen, particularly in the Arab world you have arguments as to whether you should be allowed to read a Bible, whether women should vote or drive a car or whether the Holocaust occured. In the west there were different social attitudes that were part of the political consciousness prior to the 1950's (which don't feature, that much today); women's suffrage, inter-racial marriage, prohibition, right to strike...

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Which is of course a revisionist. The language you use leads me to believe that you consider God to be the arbiter of morality

I would offer the exact opposite analysis. TJ sounds distinctly Catholic.  Catholicism holds the exact opposite position. Natural law indicates what is moral. God, as a perfect being, is perfectly in line with Natural Law.

That means if you can demonstrate something is consistent with Natural Law, then you have shown it to be consistent with God's position.


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If you embrace the absurdity that the comparative morality of the actions of Mother Teresa, and Ted Bundy is merely an matter of individual taste. You seem to believe that canonizing Mother Teresa, or canonizing Ted Bundy is merely a matter of preference. That's you claim, isn't it?

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As a Catholic, you should have been somewhat familiar with Natural Law theory, and its basis in Aristotle.

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Which makes you incredibly foolish. It makes you man who cannot reflect on what he believes, less that belief is challenged and you are conflicted. There is no reason for someone to form an opinion and remain unchanged in it despite who he meets, what he learns and what he understands. If that conflicts your entire belief system, then you should immediately question it.

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 06:48:42 PM »

Socially conservative societies will tend towards demographic growth, while socially liberal societies will tend towards demographic decline. As a result, over time, the pool of immigrants will be more socially conservative every generation. We are witnessing, more or less, demographic transformation occuring in Israel and Turkey right now as the more socially conservative religious elements reproduce faster than secular folk.

On life, the pro-life either win by winning, or win by losing. A research study in Australian demonstrated that genetics plays a role in shaping ones attitude towards abortion. Those with genes more favorable to abortion will, eventually, abort themselves out of the gene pool. As long as abortion is legal, the genetic propensity towards being pro-life will increase every generation.

Your hypothesis relies on Darwinian natural selection to be true, you know.


No.

Yes.  Yes.

Your double assertion requires a double rejection.
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