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John Dibble
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« on: September 28, 2005, 07:49:34 AM »

Hell no, you crazy?
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John Dibble
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2005, 12:35:54 PM »

Yes, of course.  Communism is always much better than theocracy.

Tell that to the people of North Korea - at least in theocracies there's less starvation. Both are horrible, but theocracy at least allows for a viable economic system in some cases.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2005, 12:56:12 PM »

Yes, of course.  Communism is always much better than theocracy.

Tell that to the people of North Korea - at least in theocracies there's less starvation. Both are horrible, but theocracy at least allows for a viable economic system in some cases.

Would you rather live in Yugoslavia under Tito, or under the Taliban?

Honestly I don't know enough about the conditions under either to make a judgement. I know that the Taliban, for instance, were oppressive in pretty much the same social sense as most communist nations - say or do anything contrary to the party line, and your ass is dead. However I do not know the economic conditions there. As far as Tito's Yugoslavia, I don't know much at all about the conditions economically or socially. Now, if you asked if I would rather live in Castro's Cuba or under the Taliban, I'd probably say Cuba - there's enough food there to prevent mass starvation because the climate is sufficient to produce enough(and Afghanistan doesn't have a great climate for food production as far as I know), though certainly they'd eat better under capitalism. And, to finish this off, of course there are varying degrees of oppression under both systems from country to country - certain theocracies are better than certain communist countries, and visa versa. I just have a view that, in general, the conditions under communism are worse(especially when it's had time to fester).

What I do know, however, is that communism has a high tendency to lead to food shortages - especially in the cities(people in rural areas can forage even if their crops are taken by the government, which is the case in North Korea right now).

Now, here's a counter question for you - would you rather live in Taliban Afghanistan, or Kim Jong-Il's North Korea?
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John Dibble
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2005, 02:49:48 PM »

Yes, of course.  Communism is always much better than theocracy.

Tell that to the people of North Korea - at least in theocracies there's less starvation. Both are horrible, but theocracy at least allows for a viable economic system in some cases.

Not necessarilly, most theocracies use religous-primitive economics, which are even worse than completely regulated economies, as the anti-technology aspect part comes in.

As for economic conditions in Afghanistan, lets just say that most Afghanis find Pakistan to be a first world country after they cross the border.

Note I said 'in some cases', and note my other response to the question posed by this. I fully realize a theocracy can impose a horrid economic system as well as social, it simply does not always have to - it depends on the particular theocracy. Communism on the other hand always imposes a broken economic system, because that's what communist governments are based on.

As I said, I don't know how bad the conditions were in Afghanistan under the Taliban, but I think this pretty much sums up the conditions of communist North Korea: http://www.nkfreedom.org/NKFactSheet.html
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