Feminism- valuable success or grotesque failure?

[John Dibble]

Some good, some bad. Feminism in it's current form isn't really about equality for women, it's about the innate superiority of women to men and bashing men at every turn. Feminism as it is presents the image of males as slow, lazy, violent, and stupid - and yet women are perfection and can do no wrong, unless they aren't feminists, in which case they are weak and slaves to men.

Seriously, the feminist movement gives men such a bad rep - look at commercials nowadays. How often do you see a stupid husband fail miserably or comically blunder up at some simple task, only to have the woman do it right the first time. And then there's those feminist television channels - Lifetime and Oxygen. Half the movies are about violent men and their wives who finally liberate themselves, usually without the help of any man. The feminist movement fails to realize that men today are quite the opposite from abusive, outside of a few cases - hell, the mere idea of beating a woman sickens most of us, partially because we've been so indoctrinated against doing it.

So, in conclusion - Dear Feminists, yes, we men of this country realize that women are people too and should be treated with respect, because many of them are intelligent and willful. However, we do request that you return the favor and respect men because many of us are also intelligent and willful. Yes, some of us are stupid and violent, but the same can be said of some women, so let's stop pretending that all problems result from men and get on with our lives. Thanks for your time.

[John Dibble]

Men and women will never be treated completely the same - wanna know why? Because they ARE different.

Should they have equal rights under the law? Yes. But in many cases that means giving men a leg up - like in child custody cases and things like that.

Should they be paid the same as men? That depends. If a woman can do the work her male coworkers can do it as effectively they should. But there are definitely cases where they shouldn't - like in jobs that require physical strength. In general, they can't do very heavy physical labor as effectively as a man can. If a woman is the exception in such cases, she should be paid the same. People should be paid on their ability to do their jobs.

Treated the same in society? Not gonna happen. Once again it comes back to the differences that really are there. Men will always be the ones chasing women, and they generally don't have to chase us. Heck, women have power over men that they either underestimate or just won't mention(and then say they are helpless).