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SteveRogers
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« on: November 28, 2020, 09:36:17 PM »




Ah. “Pay no attention to all those other cases that got laughed out of court. This next one is the real one that will prove all the voter fraud. It’s definitely a real thing that’s happening... oh, any day now.” Amazing that people are still falling for this grift.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2020, 07:59:51 AM »

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What is wrong with checking signatures?
The signatures were checked at the time the ballots were processed.

The only thing the Georgia settlement changed was 1) requiring multiple election officials to agree that a signature mismatch existed before rejecting a ballot, and 2) requiring election officials to more promptly notify voters of a signature mismatch to give the voter a chance to resolve the issue.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2020, 10:53:15 AM »

Sounds like Trump’s ace legal team will be bringing some ironclad arguments to the #SupremeCourt
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2020, 10:46:07 PM »

Why not check them again to give assurance that everything was done correctly.
Because 1) you can’t. As already discussed, the ballots are separated from the envelopes at this point, and 2) if you give a conspiracy theorist a cookie, they’ll want a glass of milk.

If voting was done in person on paper ballots (one per office), after voters showed ID, and were counted in the precinct on election night, we would have known on November 3 who was elected.
Why would knowing the result on November 3rd be more important than ensuring voting was widely accessible during a pandemic?
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2020, 08:35:40 AM »



If Dem leadership had balls like this guy the GOP wouldn't dare do the garbage they've been doing the last 4 years.  The problem is there is one party that fights and another party that feigns outrage, does nothing to hold them accountable, then wonders why there is no bottom to the other party's actions.
Um, I don’t think Powell v. McCormack says what he thinks it says.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2020, 08:10:54 PM »

I watched some of the WISC hearing and, honestly, the liberal justices seem like ideologized clowns too. What the hell kind of judge accuses a lawyer appearing before them of being un-American to their face? This is amateur hour all around.
Every judge has a breaking point, especially when they feel that an attorney is making a mockery of their courtroom.
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« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2020, 12:34:18 PM »

What did 3 justices in the minority say? Are they finding a way to appease the trumpists?
I just skimmed over it, but it sounds like none of them actually had the balls to say that they would throw out votes en masse over these issues. They mostly just whine about how the majority punted on reaching the merits via the doctrine of laches.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2020, 09:36:09 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/politics/donald-trump-pardons-lame-duck/index.html

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In his moments of deepest denial, Trump has told some advisers that he will refuse to leave the White House on Inauguration Day, only to be walked down from that ledge. The possibility has alarmed some aides, but few believe Trump will actually follow through.

Given that at this point there is almost zero chance of him holding onto power, I actually want to see the spectacle of Trump being escorted off the WH premises at 12:01PM on Jan. 20. It would be even better if he resisted and were forcibly dragged out, like United Airlines dragged Dr. Dao off their plane.
I’m hoping for this as well. The resulting photos of Trump being escorted off the premises would be a nice little warning to all future wannabe tinpot dictators.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2020, 05:26:35 PM »



That's a video from the campaign.
Ah, the age old art of circling random things in a blurry security video.
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SteveRogers
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2020, 05:08:00 PM »


Gohmert going the extra mile to defend his title as America's Dumbest Congressman in the face of stiff competition from the incoming GOP class.

What happens if Pence goes rogue and actually tries to declare elector slates invalid on Jan. 6? Yes, this is veering into dooming territory, but what's the recourse if he does this? Would the Supreme Court have to convene and rule on whether it is legal or not? Would the Dems then have to challenge Pence's ruling using the Electoral Count Act?
I imagine the ruling by the Vice President would be objected to and overridden by a majority of both houses of Congress, just as any other procedural ruling by the presiding officer can be overridden by the chamber. Congress would then follow the procedures of the Electoral Counts Act in determining which slate of electors to count. If it did somehow go to SCOTUS, the Court would be very likely to defer to congress and rule that the procedure for counting the electoral votes is a political question reserved for the legislative branch (and thus avoid ruling directly on the issue of whether or not the Electoral Counts Act is itself legally binding on Congress).
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