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  19-year-old Fmr. Candidate for KS Governor may have just won a State House seat (search mode)
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Adam Griffin
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« on: August 25, 2020, 08:28:16 PM »

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“I just can’t believe that he continues to tell lies about what I’ve accomplished,” Frownfelter said. “I don’t understand why he’s slamming another Democrat. And I’ve never said a word about him.”

And that's why you've been relegated to running a write-in campaign, Mr. Incumbent.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2020, 08:43:05 PM »

He's awful, but if the voters elect him anyway knowing all this, the legislature should seat him. The people have the right to be represented by any eligible citizen they choose, not necessarily someone acceptable to other legislators.

It would be one thing if this all came out after Election Day. But the voters have the full information and their decision should be respected.
No, if he wins the voters should be ignored and him not be seated.  

What could possibly go wrong with setting this precedent? It's not as if there is an increasingly popular conspiracy theory regarding Democratic politicians and child abuse/trafficking.
If you really want to try and compare these two very different things that is up to you and your strange reasoning.  They aren't the same and you know it.

I mean...in nominal defense of the argument here, you're banking on 1) the GOP base knowing the difference between reality and fiction and 2) the GOP elite caring about the distinction if it's inconvenient for them and/or their electoral ambitions.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2020, 06:20:58 PM »

My guilty pleasure of sorts is that I hope Coleman gets elected to one term, gets shunned, and then we get a normal progressive Dem for the seat in 2022 who actually represents the district.

I didn't dig in-depth through Frownfelter's voting record, but I did notice one fairly common phenomenon: whenever the votes were approximately 2:1 on a bill (i.e. more or less the partisan breakdown of the chamber), he was almost always on the winning side.

This more or less tells me that Frownfelter is a conservadem who's been riding on incumbency throughout his career but not actually representing the voters of his district. If he were to win a write-in campaign this year, he'd just end up entrenched once again - whereas if he loses, one or more qualified progressive challengers will seek the office in 2022 and we'll be rid of both of them.

I'd rather deal with an impotent loser for 2 years than a conservadem for another 20.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2020, 11:48:48 AM »

So people actually voted him in? How did he do? Was there even any underperformance at all? LOL. Voters just don't care.

D-Aaron Coleman - 66.5%
Stan Frownfelter (Write-In) - 22.3%
Kristina Smith (Write-In) - 11.3%

Frownfelter is the incumbent he beat in the primary by 14 votes. Dunno how Biden did here (probably very well) but yeah, voters really don’t care.

Obama 61-37
Clinton 54-40
Kelly 60-31

LOL.
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