What next for the Federalist Party?

[Adam Griffin]

The difference is that there is a 40 plus poster registration edge, most of whom vote completely based on partisan affiliation

[laughs in Griffin]

or how they are asked with little to no in game considerations or candidate quality even entering the equation.

We could run the best ticket ever and still not even come close. So all of this handwringing about "oh you guys ran a terrible ticket", is really just obfuscating the reality stated above.

Up until 12 months ago the Right was perfectly fine with these dynamics, using personality and Discord above all else to influence voters (which they used for more or less 2 years of victory). Y'all did run your best candidate against - arguably - our best candidate (me!) and still nearly won in June '19. After that, though, y'all gave up because once again, you lost the latest in a long line of messiahs who stopped caring about the movement after their personal glorification was exhausted.

Structurally - even when you guys were winning - the problem is that you always vest everything into one person. When y'all are sucking, it falls on you (or perhaps somebody like lfromnj who was talented but too impatient to wait things out). Otherwise, it's one presenting non-ideological personality (first Doof, then Fhtagn, then YT) who invariably either gets burned out, burns their reputation out, or who loses interest when short-term victory isn't possible. I imagine had YT won in June of last year, he wouldn't have disappeared - and if he'd beaten me, it's very likely he would have sailed to victory in re-election (and maybe even sought a third term), completely demoralizing the left in the process, exhausting any registration gains and pulling a 2017 Fed redux.

Anyway, y'all have to find a reliable, sustainable way to spread the workload, culture and effort of party management around to a team. As much as the opposite very much worked for Labor and myself at times pre-reset (again, I'm a Very Special Boy!), we've been so successful as of late because no one person has enough control or influence within the movement presently to take unilateral control of the apparatus, force specific behavior onto everybody or send the party careening because they suddenly disappear. You'll see discussions of this broader dynamic in previous posts in this thread as examples.

[Adam Griffin]

The funny thing is that Blair basically refuted Adam. Adam said that if YT had one it would have been a doof redux with domination flowing from that. However, the key point that Blair said "it was my leadership". Regardless of exact proportion of blame for that, lets leave that aside, Doof was only able to pull off what he did because Labor dropped the ball.

If Blair "refuted" me, it still means it's your fault. Either way, you're in charge and accountable.

However, it'd be better (from a Labor perspective) to look at his POV as the beginning of Labor's descent into nothingness and mine as the end of such. Some might look back to August 2018 and think that was when the Left's stint in the wilderness ended, but it's more apt to say that happened in June 2019. Labor reformed because we had a joke party in PUP and certain right-wing characters trolled for its reformation. The October win was because of Sestak's recruiting efforts, but the party was by no means "restored" and still wholly reliant upon one individual - in case it wasn't obvious, we also lost 4 months later.

It took several months before multiple individuals were coordinating and cooperating with one another as part of a greater infrastructure, with the June '19 election being the biggest catalyst for that I'd argue. The energy, activity and enthusiasm that election brought was meaningful: one side funneled it into a party, while the other side funneled it into YT. Had we lost, I feel it's pretty safe to say that much of what formed afterward within the party would have crumbled, and YT's presence on the right would've led to different registration outcomes, a continued presence of a right-of-center messianic figure and likely re-election. It's not hard to see how easily 3-4 voters switching their votes could have completely changed the past year.

The Feds will return someday. Perhaps the name will change

Honestly, such needs to happen - but of course Yankee will never allow for that. Labor went through its own dissolution and reformation, in large part because loyalty to the brand and its reputation had both soured. It made us better in the process. I'd say the Federalist brand is even more tarnished, in part because of its tendency to lose; people like voting for winners (or at least not losers). If it was something worthy, it'd find its way back from dissolution or whatever just like we did; if not, then who care.