Trump approval ratings thread 1.3

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I bet Trump will have hit sub-30 by the time this thread is done.

He'll be rotting in jail by then my friend.

As quickly as we go through these threads now-a-days, even if Trump's been indicted, I can't see a House impeachment having gotten past the committee stage at the most, even if the GOP decides to abandon Trump after an indictment.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Lindsey Graham has become a mealy-mouthed politician, alternately standing up to Donald Trump on an issue and then yielding to him. South Carolinians might be able to tell you more than I can. If there is deterioration in his performance as a Senator they would know better than I.

Here's a general rule: the locals know better than you do if you do not live in that state or within the range of media that cover that area.

Graham just being Graham.  He's fairly consistently been for a decade now a politician that people don't care that much for until they get a chance to see who might replace him.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Morning consult continues to underpoll miniorities lol

Kansas at +1 but Georgia at +5

yeahhhh sure jan

Not impossible since Kansas has first-hand experience with the utter stupidity of the GOP tax cut, but almost certainly an outlier,

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

This projection suggests that overall the President will NOT approach 50% of the vote in 2020.

He didn't approach it 2016 either.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

SurveyUSA: Trump is underwater in North Carolina; 50% disapprove, 43% approve, 7% undecided.

How dare you interrupt this thread with an actual poll?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why aren't more of the Red Avatars here worried about Korean peace being detrimental to Dem chances to taking over the House? I'd honestly rather have a Dem Congressional majority than for the DPRK and the ROK to get along.

Because its May.

And because the North has had these temporary thaws before.  It's nice that the two Koreas are talking, but even at full speed on the diplomatic front with no double dealing by Kim, it's unlikely there will be an agreement in place before the midterms.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

59% of this country voted for Reagan after he plunged the country into a recession

Blaming Reagan for the 1981-1982 recession is ridiculous on multiple fronts.  First, it was the tight monetary policy put in place by the Federal Reserve (at the time led by Carter-appointee Volcker) that caused the recession. Second, that tight policy was an unfortunate necessity to break the spiral of stagflation that was happening.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Even at my best trolling I could never reel in as many people as hofoid. How does he do it

I don't think you ever say something as blantently false as he does like saying Trump's approval  is on par  with Bush's after 9/11

Maybe hofoid is Trump?  IP check please!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Beyond 2020, who knows, but a mere half a percent uniform swing would be enuf to dump Trump.  Given Trump's unpopularity and moreover his total disinterest in going beyond his base, it's hard to see how the Democrats could lose in 2020 with a candidate that is even only slightly less polarizing than Clinton.  There were many factors needed for Trump to win in 2016.  One of those was overconfidence.  I don't think the Dems will make that mistake again for a while.

(TBF, given the ways the polls looked I don't fault Clinton too much.  If she was going to be able to accomplish anything, she needed to get a Democratic-controlled Senate  If she had won but the GOP had kept the Senate, we might well still have a vacancy on the Supreme Court.  So spending some political capital on taking the Senate wasn't a bad idea, the campaign just neglected to do enuf defense.)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

If you take a look at where Anderson got his votes, it's pretty clear most of his support came from Liberal Republicans hesitant to vote for Reagan, but not yet willing to vote Democratic, especially for a candidate as conservative as Carter was perceived to be in 1980.

It wasn't just the economy or Iran that led Kennedy to contest the nomination in 1980.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Whoops sorry about that Torie

You need to work on your reading comprehension. As Tories himself said, you need to apologize to Virginia for confusing Torie with her.😝

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Hmm, is this a possible reaction to Putin meetup? If so, there's no reason this wouldn't dissipate in a few weeks. The American Public has the attention of a goldfish when it comes to Russia.

No, it's just that favourability is different from job approval, although for the life of me I will never understand how somebody who correctly identifies Trump as a scumbag, somehow cannot identify the fact that he is doing a horrible job.

If you measure Presidential job approval by how your 401(k) is doing (and not by how it will do), then Trump is doing a good job.  The economic affects of his idiocy have yet to show up in the stock market.