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Question: In the U.S.
#1
after 1990-- modern means essentially contemporary and its definition shifts with time
 
#2
1965 to 1990-- the social movements of the late 60s and/or recent government programs represented the beginning of modern society
 
#3
1945 to 1965-- suburbanization, mass consumption, and the "affluent society" represented the beginning of modern life
 
#4
1920 to 1945-- the completion of urbanization, the radio, the motion picture, mass auto ownership, and transatlantic flight achieved modernity
 
#5
1870 to 1920-- the second industrial revolution with the invention of the light bulb, flight, and the automobile demarcate modernity
 
#6
before 1870-- I seriously think Andrew Johnson was a "modern" president
 
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: May 24, 2005, 03:20:53 AM »

The definition of “modern” obviously changes over time and is dependent upon what considers to be the most important change that precipitated the modern era.  Depending on one's point of view, I think one could legitimately fix that point as being somewhere between 1970 (the zenith of economic liberalism in the US) and 2001 (9/11).  I myself would pick 1975 as the starting point of our current modern era.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2005, 06:53:14 AM »

If I were to divide US History onto four easy pieces for study, I would pick:
(1588 - 1763) The Colonial Era: From the Spanish Armada to the Treaty of Paris
(1754 -  1877) A New Nation: From the Albany Congress to the End of Reconstruction)
(1862 - 1935) The America of Business: From the Morrill Act to the Wagner Act
(1914 - present) Arsenal of Democracy: From World War I to the Present Day

These are similar to J.J.'s erae, except I included a colonial era, don't see the need to seperate the last two decades into a sperate era as of yet and I made them overlap.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2005, 11:05:57 PM »

If I were to divide US History onto four easy pieces for study, I would pick:
(1588 - 1763) The Colonial Era: From the Spanish Armada to the Treaty of Paris
(1754 -  1877) A New Nation: From the Albany Congress to the End of Reconstruction)
(1862 - 1935) The America of Business: From the Morrill Act to the Wagner Act
(1914 - present) Arsenal of Democracy: From World War I to the Present Day

These are similar to J.J.'s erae, except I included a colonial era, don't see the need to seperate the last two decades into a sperate era as of yet and I made them overlap.

One problem I have is 1989.  The world changed when the USSR was no longer a superpower.

The US became the superpower by outlasting everybody else.   That both changed our way at looking as ourselves and the world and how the world looked at us.

I disagree.  As far as the US in concerned, we merely traded Jihadists for Communists as our boogeymen of choice when the Cold War ended.  That change was not a fundamental one in how we perceive ourselves.  We are still the shining city on a hill that is best example and guardian of all that is good in Western Civilization.  Now while 1989 would certainly be a pivotal and defining event for Europe (and thus European history) it has been but of minor effect on the US  (and thus US history).  That divergence of the importance of 1989 is part the reason that Western Europe and the US have drifted apart since then.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2005, 11:25:07 PM »

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.  Even if I accepted your viewpoint, I would put the starting point back in the 1970's, not 1989.
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