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Keystone Phil
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« on: September 03, 2008, 12:24:03 PM »


I'm glad you didn't/wouldn't have supported Jimmy Carter in 1976 or Bill Clinton in 1992.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 03:20:35 PM »


I'm glad you didn't/wouldn't have supported Jimmy Carter in 1976 or Bill Clinton in 1992.

Georgia is not and was not a small state. Arkansas, yeah, small state, but not only was it 4 times the size of Alaska, but Bill Clinton had been governor for 12 years. Doesn't matter, Bush Sr. ran ads against Clinton on the same line of attack that McCain supporters now argue is no longer operative because Sarah's a woman.

Sorry, I mixed arguments. That was supposed to go under the "only Governor for a short period of time" category.

Arkansas is still a small state, regardless of how much bigger it is compared to another. Yes, Clinton had more time as Governor but that doesn't take away from the argument that he had no foreign policy experience and only had to run a small state.

We don't argue that you can't criticize Palin because she's a woman. I'm tired of hearing about how smart and fair you are when you use stuff like this.

Bush, Sr. highlighted an advantage he had but I, personally, don't think that disqualified Clinton. You guys claim that it disqualifies Palin but it was good enough for Clinton.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 03:38:15 PM »

We don't argue that you can't criticize Palin because she's a woman. I'm tired of hearing about how smart and fair you are when you use stuff like this.

The woman thing is the McCain campaign today and their surrogates. Carly Fiorina had a stupid comment about it. No one here is doing it, at least, no one's doing it that I've cared about.

No, they didn't say that you can't criticize her. Again, you're bending what is being said.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 03:46:26 PM »

No, they didn't say that you can't criticize her. Again, you're bending what is being said.

If people criticize her on substantive grounds, and then Fiorina and Rosario Marin come out and say she's a being attacked because of sexism, that IS saying you can't criticize her because she's a woman. No one would come out and say that, because it sounds as stupid as it is. The whole point is to bully people into laying off of her. It's not going to work, but I don't think they're thinking clearly about this so much as trying any kind of defense they can to stall until she speaks herself tonight and changes the subject.

It depends on what these "substantic" attacks are. Like is she really Pro Woman as a Pro Lifer?
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