Giffords returns to House floor to vote for debt deal vote.

[Keystone Phil]

I don't know if I should be happy or appalled at how this has turned into a spectacle but it's certainly something to see.

[Keystone Phil]

Perhaps planned by the Democrats.

Why part of me feels like I ought to be appalled.

[Keystone Phil]

Perhaps planned by the Democrats.

Why part of me feels like I ought to be appalled.

I think your lack of faith in people is genuinely sad.

Other people think it was planned, too, dude. Despite your strong desires to make this about me, try to see some of the other comments here.

[Keystone Phil]

I really do feel you must have had plenty of sh!t in this life to be so consistently cynical and untrusting, and it's not fair to you.

Yes, brittain, you got it. Again, ignore the fact that others said the same. We'll just concede that you have a good grasp on who I am despite the fact that you're someone I've never really spoken to privately and don't really know.

Do me a favor and stop trolling.

[Keystone Phil]

I don't see the big deal, she's a member of Congress and returned to cast her vote. Perhaps she wanted to do the job she was elected to do, represent her constituents, something that certain members of Congress know nothing about.

Ok, spare us your usual nonsense for just a minute. Even if this wasn't some planned spectacle, you cannot be so clueless as to see why this is more than just a member of Congress returning to cast a vote. It isn't just "doing the job she was elected to do, representing her constituents, etc." If you want to use talking points, make them a little more original. There's a reason why her showing up is a bigger deal and a "breaking news" story in its own right.

[Keystone Phil]

Ok, spare us your usual nonsense for just a minute. Even if this wasn't some planned spectacle, you cannot be so clueless as to see why this is more than just a member of Congress returning to cast a vote. It isn't just "doing the job she was elected to do, representing her constituents, etc." If you want to use talking points, make them a little more original. There's a reason why her showing up is a bigger deal and a "breaking news" story in its own right.

Spare us your name calling, can you do that for one? Thank you. If you had a problem with it and don't think she should have been there, it's your right, but can't expect everyone else to hold that opinion.

Haha, ok, wow.

1) I don't know where I hinted that I expect everyone else to hold my opinion. Seems like you just like to  ramble on and say things that make little to no sense.

2) I never said I don't think she should have been there. I said that if it was staged, the staging was wrong.

[Keystone Phil]

I'm just saying it was some master planned scheme like the OP is suggesting.

I assume you mean it wasn't some master planned scheme. I never said it definitely was. I don't know that it was. You don't know that it wasn't.

Sure, Giffords wanted to be there for an important vote. No one is saying that she shouldn't have been. It's the way it was done and it leaves people wondering. It wouldn't have been a breaking news story if she arrived to make her return vote on a few amendments just an hour or two before this vote, would it?

[Keystone Phil]

According to her sources she insisted on being flown to DC for the vote. Doesnt sound staged to me honestly. Either way its a good thing to have her back since the shooting.

That isn't the point at all. It's the point that she was there for that to be her first vote once she arrived instead of the other votes held just before that. Turning it into a spectacle is the issue.

And, quite frankly, her staff saying that she insisted on going back doesn't suggest one way or the other that something was staged.

[Keystone Phil]

Honestly, I doubt...the leadership would be stupid enough to even ask her to.

I don't think you're aware of how low people are willing to stoop in this business. And before the attack dogs are let off their leash and say that I'm just attacking one party's leaders, my comment extends quite obviously to the leadership in both parties.

[Keystone Phil]

Who, hate mongering tea partiers??

Yes, King and Nathan (a Democrat from Massachusetts) both entertained this idea and they're obviously Tea Partiers.

Smash, you're useless. Seriously.

Only Phil could make this story about him.

Actually, that was brittain and I actually pointed out in my first response to him that he was twisting it so it could be about me (note his comments about how I'm cynical and I don't have faith in people).

She was shot in the head by a lunatic and survived. I am glad that her return was a "spectacle." I'm proud all the benefit of that spectacle accrues to her as a human being and has nothing to do with party.

I don't care that there was a spectacle for her; it's about how her party's leadership was possibly using her as a distraction from the vote itself.

Save the rhetoric about how I can't appreciate the praise for Giffords for someone else. Only someone like yourself can turn my positive comment about how this was surely a sight to see into a supposedly vicious attack.

[Keystone Phil]

Giffords is a duly elected member with a Constitutional right not to be impeded from traveling to vote. No matter whom acted with what motive, that Constitutional right remains in effect.

Is this for real? People, no one is arguing that she didn't have a right to be there or that she shouldn't have voted. It's amazing that I feel the need to say that even as I was never someone that jumped on the "she should resign!" train.