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Keystone Phil
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« on: July 12, 2011, 06:54:52 PM »

I like these "Even if Bachmann/Santorum/Perry/Palin win the nomination..." comments. I know you guys are admitting that they'd still win the state but does anyone really believe they'd do noticeably worse than McCain or Bush?

This would essentially be a repeat of the 2004 Oklahoma Senate race: everyone thinks it could be competitive then it turns into a cakewalk for the Republican nominee partly because of the strength at the top of the ticket.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 07:35:48 PM »

I like these "Even if Bachmann/Santorum/Perry/Palin win the nomination..." comments. I know you guys are admitting that they'd still win the state but does anyone really believe they'd do noticeably worse than McCain or Bush?

This would essentially be a repeat of the 2004 Oklahoma Senate race: everyone thinks it could be competitive then it turns into a cakewalk for the Republican nominee partly because of the strength at the top of the ticket.

Yeah any of those candidates would do noticeably worse than McCain, especially with a protracted nomination battle against Romney involving subtle attacks on his Mormonism. The state is trending towards the Democrats thanks to SLC's growth and the political culture of the state is slowly changing in those enclaves.

Uh...you're aware that Romney ran and was attacked in 2008, right? McCain wasn't damaged by that.

What's noticeably worse than McCain's 63% in 2008? Don't tell me you think the eventual nominee would slip into the mid 50s...
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2011, 01:34:47 PM »

The McCain campaign never had any anti-Mormon literature. I expect either Bachmann or Perry too.

Stop posting. 

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Incredibly asinine. Again, stop posting.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 04:21:19 PM »

The McCain campaign never had any anti-Mormon literature. I expect either Bachmann or Perry too.

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Incredibly asinine. Again, stop posting.

Here are you some poll results for you. If you chose to discount them because they don't fit your narrow view of reality, so be it. Keep in mind that I know the Mormon voter really well because many of my close friends are Mormons. I understand this community. Have you even met a Mormon before?
PPP:
Barack Obama 35%
Michele Bachmann 49%
Undecided 16%

Barack Obama 34%
Tim Pawlenty 45%
Undecided 20%

Great input, by the way. I really loved your insightful thoughts on Utah's demographics. Now that I've been told how Keystone Phil views Utah, I know how I should view Utah. You're a genius and a real pal.

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I ask this seriously: was that post supposed to be parody?

In case it was for real, I'm sure the undecided voters in Utah are going to break quite clearly one way, pal.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 04:32:28 PM »


One of the great mysteries of life.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 11:41:07 AM »

Obama's coattails certainly did not hurt him in 2008... he won with 64% in a district that is 5 points less Republican than the whole state.  He also did very well in rural areas... winning all but two rural counties that are located in his district.

Yeah, one problem: it isn't 2008.

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The "Pro Utah" candidate. Wow.
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