GOP already backing away from campaign promises.....

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I'm just waiting for Senator Kyl and/or Speaker Boehner to turn to the President at a meeting and say, "We won."

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I'm just waiting for Senator Kyl and/or Speaker Boehner to turn to the President at a meeting and say, "We won."

In what world Kyl won? The Democrats still control the Senate.

He obviously didn't win but it would be in response to a greater GOP presence in Congress. They'll have some "bipartisan" event soon, the President will act like he still runs everything and Kyl could simply make a general comment (could even be referring to the House). He'd be saying it since the great uniter we have as President decided to say it to him in early 2009. I'm sure Boehner will be kind enough to let Kyl say it on his behalf if Obama starts complaining about something in the House.

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I'm just waiting for Senator Kyl and/or Speaker Boehner to turn to the President at a meeting and say, "We won."

In what world Kyl won? The Democrats still control the Senate.

He obviously didn't win but it would be in response to a greater GOP presence in Congress. They'll have some "bipartisan" event soon, the President will act like he still runs everything and Kyl could simply make a general comment (could even be referring to the House). He'd be saying it since the great uniter we have as President decided to say it to him in early 2009. I'm sure Boehner will be kind enough to let Kyl say it on his behalf if Obama starts complaining about something in the House.

Apparently you're confused. Bush isn't president anymore.

Right because, despite the example I cited, this President doesn't act like he's entitled to everything he wants.

"We won." Really changed Washington, Mr. President!

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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

He said it during negotiations with Congressional Republicans after Republicans noted their concern with spending. Great negotiating.

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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

He said it during negotiations with Congressional Republicans after Republicans noted their concern with spending. Great negotiating.

Well, as much as it may surprise you the minority can't FORCE their policies on the majority. Especially when they have settled on a strategy of "No Compromise".

Who said anything about forcing policies on anyone? You don't say "I won" after campaigning on changing politics and all of his other nonsense at negotiations.

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Are you kind enough to remind us the circumstances under which he uttered that phrase?

He said it during negotiations with Congressional Republicans after Republicans noted their concern with spending. Great negotiating.

Well, as much as it may surprise you the minority can't FORCE their policies on the majority. Especially when they have settled on a strategy of "No Compromise".

Who said anything about forcing policies on anyone? You don't say "I won" after campaigning on changing politics and all of his other nonsense at negotiations.

You can if the losing side behaves as if they own the place.

Right, px.    They were acting like they owned the place by voicing their concerns over spending. Thanks for your daily dose of hackery.

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Where were those concerns during the Bush years? They remembered them when a Democrat was in the White House as a fig-leaf for their obstruction.

Hey, it happens on both sides and I don't like when either party does it. However, it was Obama that trumpeted that nonsense that he "transcends politics."

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Where were those concerns during the Bush years? They remembered them when a Democrat was in the White House as a fig-leaf for their obstruction.

Hey, it happens on both sides and I don't like when either party does it. However, it was Obama that trumpeted that nonsense that he "transcends politics."

Because he was naive enough to believe that Republicans would negotiate in good faith.

Wow. You're really reaching on this one!

Let me indulge this stupid point for a minute though. Even if it was true, wouldn't a man that transcends politics transcend the entire political process.

For it was written that Barack so loved the nation...

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Px, take a note from Badger: when he goes extreme partisan hack, he at least makes it more amusing. 

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Px, take a note from Badger: when he goes extreme partisan hack, he at least makes it more amusing. 

Yeah, he is so extremely hackish that you don't even bother to answer.

I didn't see a question.

Obama's comment, especially as Mr. "Transcends Politics," was inappropriate and not a form of negotiation. But that's ok. That attitude helped the GOP pick up over sixty House seats and six Senate seats even as we were "on the verge of extinction." Thanks, Mr. President. Let's do it again some time.

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Phil, the Republicans could have done a lot better than six senate seats.

Uh...at the beginning of 2010, we had 40 seats. After 2008, people were talking about the GOP having a net loss of Senate seats again because of big retirements on our side. Things turned out differently. We now have 47 seats. How much better could we have done? Could we have won Colorado and Nevada in the General? Sure. That's not "a lot" better. Also consider the results of primary contests that are mostly out of the national party's control. There wasn't much better that could have been done. The absolute ceiling was ten or maybe eleven. I'll take what we got.

Obama never said he transcends politics.  He has said that people expect politicians to act with a seriousness of purpose that transcends petty politics.  Does he fail to do this sometimes?  Definitely.  All politicians do.  Call 60 Minutes. 

He fed into it. He was stressing that he was the change everyone was waiting for. He was the new dawn.  He went on to take cheap shots from the beginning of his administration. Let's not forget the immature "The campaign is over, John" incident during the healthcare reform summit.

Really? And silly me thought that unemployment was the main cause for Democratic losses.

Tell me why his approval rating was 44% in midterm exit polls, px. Was it because people actually really liked him and just had this impulse to say otherwise?

Your knee jerk tendency to spout DNC talking points as if Tim Kaine was handing you your check every other week aside, everyone can admit that Obama lost the trust of the voters in 2010. He rammed an unpopular healthcare overhaul through Congress. People don't like the bill and don't like the way it was passed. It's time to open your eyes and admit that he paid a price for his style in the first two years of his term.

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Don't forget Delaware!


(Phil).

I was talking about seats that we still could have won with our candidates in the General. That wasn't happening after the primary.

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LOL! Do you know "kid" that Obama is by far the most popular politician in Washington? People certainly trust and like him much more than Bhoener and McConnell. Read a poll if you don't believe me.

Wow. You're going to cite approval polls of people like Boehner and McConnell? You'd be one of the people complaining that polls about Pelosi and Reid don't matter and that would be correct. National polls gauging popularity of figures that aren't elected nationally don't really matter because people hardly know anything about them when compared to the President.

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Totally subjective and without any proof.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To

Louisiana Purchase, Cornhusker Kickback, etc. The majority it receives has nothing to do with it being rushed through.

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Most people supported the tax cuts, for starters.

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And the fact that they aren't as well known as Obama doesn't change the fact that their unfavorables are twice their favorables. Obviously even those who know them like Obama more.

I bet Boehner's favorables are around 20% and unfavorables are around 40%. That would satisfy your claim and still leave 40% having no opinion/not knowing enough.

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Ha! You can't cite a single piece of evidence that backs up your claim besides "I've watching politics for a long time." Ok. That's going to be my excuse for backing up wild claims, too. You're taking a policy that you support but is unpopular here and saying that a totally independent issue would have made it popular. Ridiculous!

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Which Republicans were bought off? Also, again, negotiating doesn't mean saying, "I won."

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Good job refuting my point!