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« on: December 22, 2003, 06:40:07 AM »

How do people feel regarding gun laws? Personally I am incredibly anti-gun. It would frighten me enormously if Britain relaxed gun laws to the extent that the US has. I think this is one of the main reasons the UK has such a miniscule homicide rate. Perhaps people here would start killing eachother however they don't have the means to do it!! :-)
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2004, 11:44:15 AM »

All I have to say, again, is that people should have the right to bear firearms. Gun control is stupid.

What is stupid about it? The US has about 12,000 gun related murders a year, the UK has less than 70. Doesn't that tell you something? The US only has 5 times Britain's population yet has 170 times more gun related deaths. Gun control works, it's a fact. In the UK we have violent crime just like anywhere, but most of it involves fists rather than guns. Surely that is better? Very few criminals here carry guns, if gun control was relaxed we would have an arms race to see who could get armed up to the hilt first, us or the criminals. No thanks!
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2004, 05:28:50 PM »

Please not that Shotguns and hunting rifles are legal in the U.K, unless they are high velocity weapons(eg. pump action shotgun)

There are circumstances were people should be able to own and carry guns. Gamekeepers, farmers and the police of course. I am not against that. I also recognise that some people engage in shooting as a sport, which again is acceptable as long as they're properly licenced. However I don't believe any Tom, Dick or Harry should be able to own one. Why would they want to own one?
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2004, 04:39:18 AM »

All I have to say, again, is that people should have the right to bear firearms. Gun control is stupid.

What is stupid about it? The US has about 12,000 gun related murders a year, the UK has less than 70. Doesn't that tell you something? The US only has 5 times Britain's population yet has 170 times more gun related deaths. Gun control works, it's a fact. In the UK we have violent crime just like anywhere, but most of it involves fists rather than guns. Surely that is better? Very few criminals here carry guns, if gun control was relaxed we would have an arms race to see who could get armed up to the hilt first, us or the criminals. No thanks!
It's stupid because the Constitution states that people have a right to bear arms. Don't get me wrong, I hate dirt bags that shoot innocent people, but the liberal stance on gun control is this: "Guns are evil! They are so barbaric! Take them away from everyone forever!"

PD, I'm not sure liberals do say this? I certainly don't. As I said, I wouldn't ban guns completely. Farmers need them to protect livestock from foxes etc. They have a legitimate reason for wanting one. I don't believe your average person in the street has a valid reason for wanting to own or carry one, not in the UK anyway.  To protect yourself and family doesn't wash with me. You can do that without blowing someone's head off!
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2004, 05:42:05 AM »

More guns, less crime?! Where on earth did you get that philosophy from? If more guns equaled less crime then the US should have the lowest crime rate in the world! In actual fact it has one of the highest. In Britain, rates of serious crimes such as rape and murder are far, far lower than in the US. Theft and burglary are much higher in Britain, but these crimes rarely involve violence. In the UK if you confront a burglar 99.9% of times they will run away or hurl abuse and attempt to run away :-). Britain has always had a serious problem with petty crime, but serious crimes are still rare. The chances of being approached by a criminal with a gun in the UK are perhaps a million to one. Wouldn't you prefer to be in that situation?

How do you protect yourself if a criminal comes up to you with a gun ( which they got illegally) and you were prevented from having one?  Or if a rapist breaks into a house to rape a woman and he has a guna nd she does not have access to one?


Read "More Guns, Less crime"  shows that states with right to carry laws ( which is growing) have lower rates of crime than those with more restrictive gun control.



All I have to say, again, is that people should have the right to bear firearms. Gun control is stupid.

It's stupid because the Constitution states that people have a right to bear arms. Don't get me wrong, I hate dirt bags that shoot innocent people, but the liberal stance on gun control is this: "Guns are evil! They are so barbaric! Take them away from everyone forever!"

PD, I'm not sure liberals do say this? I certainly don't. As I said, I wouldn't ban guns completely. Farmers need them to protect livestock from foxes etc. They have a legitimate reason for wanting one. I don't believe your average person in the street has a valid reason for wanting to own or carry one, not in the UK anyway.  To protect yourself and family doesn't wash with me. You can do that without blowing someone's head off!
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