Gov. Howard Dean

[PD]

If the people don't want to fight it it isn't worth fighting for.

Then go live somewhere else.

[Inmate Trump]

Bradley was a strange bird.  He refused to wear makeup, I heard.  The reflection on his forehead from the lights at the debates made him look like a human lighthouse.  I liked him, but he was another boring Democrat.

There are a lot of boring Democrats, aren't there?  More than half of the Democrats running for president right now are pretty boring, including most of the lead contenders.  It's pretty sad when the only *non* boring candidates for president in your party's primary election is Al Sharpton and Howard Dean.

I will give that to Dean - he isn't boring at all, which I'll admit is a big plus for him.  It's his issues that bother me.

[Demrepdan]

If the people don't want to fight it it isn't worth fighting for.

Then go live somewhere else.

Wonderful philosophy....makes things nice and simple....I hope there is a similar philosophy to ALL problems...because gee...life sure is complicated...I wanna make it more simple....

[© tweed]

If the people don't want to fight it it isn't worth fighting for.

Then go live somewhere else.

LOL....
Remember, we're not laughing with you, PD, we're laughing at you...

[Inmate Trump]

At the risk of getting attacked myself....

Why does everyone always gang up on PD?

I guess none of you were ever 15.

I mean, it's one thing to disagree with his views on things.  If you don't like what he says, offer a productive counter-argument.  Better yet, ignore what he says if you don't like it.  Don't attack him.  Personal insults and name calling doesn't make you look too smart, you know.  Not to mention very friendly.

Just my $0.02.

[PD]

If the people don't want to fight it it isn't worth fighting for.

Then go live somewhere else.

LOL....
Remember, we're not laughing with you, PD, we're laughing at you...

I really don't care.

[Gustaf]

At the risk of getting attacked myself....

Why does everyone always gang up on PD?

I guess none of you were ever 15.

I mean, it's one thing to disagree with his views on things.  If you don't like what he says, offer a productive counter-argument.  Better yet, ignore what he says if you don't like it.  Don't attack him.  Personal insults and name calling doesn't make you look too smart, you know.  Not to mention very friendly.

Just my $0.02.

I was 15 5 months ago, so I do remember it pretty well...

If you insult someone you shouldn't except much better in return, and even teenagers have to take responsibility. I don't like leaving offensive and partisan statements unanswered. But I will back down, it isn't interesting to debate with him the way it is with jmfcst, to name one.

[Inmate Trump]

I was 15 5 months ago, so I do remember it pretty well...

If you insult someone you shouldn't except much better in return, and even teenagers have to take responsibility. I don't like leaving offensive and partisan statements unanswered. But I will back down, it isn't interesting to debate with him the way it is with jmfcst, to name one.

lol  Okay...then I bet none of you BUT Gustaf remembers being 15.  Kidding......

Before you and PD and I thought I'd be the youngest here (I'm 20).  I dunno why I thought that really, I guess I just didn't think there were that many people younger than 20 who'd be interested in politics so much to write on a political message board constantly.  Looks like I was wrong.

[Gustaf]

I was 15 5 months ago, so I do remember it pretty well...

If you insult someone you shouldn't except much better in return, and even teenagers have to take responsibility. I don't like leaving offensive and partisan statements unanswered. But I will back down, it isn't interesting to debate with him the way it is with jmfcst, to name one.

lol  Okay...then I bet none of you BUT Gustaf remembers being 15.  Kidding......

Before you and PD and I thought I'd be the youngest here (I'm 20).  I dunno why I thought that really, I guess I just didn't think there were that many people younger than 20 who'd be interested in politics so much to write on a political message board constantly.  Looks like I was wrong.

Realpolitik claims to be under 20, and M I believe was 17. So there are a rather large number of young people on the board, I think only a few were actually over 30, when the subject was brought up.

[Inmate Trump]

Realpolitik claims to be under 20, and M I believe was 17. So there are a rather large number of young people on the board, I think only a few were actually over 30, when the subject was brought up.

Holy crap!  I'm so old!

Well, now I can call people "young'n" and tell stories about how when I was a kid I had to walk five miles to school - in the snow, barefoot.

[Gustaf]

Realpolitik claims to be under 20, and M I believe was 17. So there are a rather large number of young people on the board, I think only a few were actually over 30, when the subject was brought up.

Holy crap!  I'm so old!

Well, now I can call people "young'n" and tell stories about how when I was a kid I had to walk five miles to school - in the snow, barefoot.

Lol, have you seen the Monty Python sketch with four men talking about their miserable childhood? It's really funny! I think my dad has claimed to have walked barefoot to school, lol...

He and his friends did get chased away from a shed once by their teacher during a snow-storm, b/c she thought it embarassing to the nation that healthy young boys would seek cover...

[Inmate Trump]

Lol, have you seen the Monty Python sketch with four men talking about their miserable childhood? It's really funny! I think my dad has claimed to have walked barefoot to school, lol...

He and his friends did get chased away from a shed once by their teacher during a snow-storm, b/c she thought it embarassing to the nation that healthy young boys would seek cover...

I haven't seen that Monty Python sketch, no.  But sounds cool!

[Gustaf]

Lol, have you seen the Monty Python sketch with four men talking about their miserable childhood? It's really funny! I think my dad has claimed to have walked barefoot to school, lol...

He and his friends did get chased away from a shed once by their teacher during a snow-storm, b/c she thought it embarassing to the nation that healthy young boys would seek cover...

I haven't seen that Monty Python sketch, no.  But sounds cool!

Here is link to the text of the sketch:

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/judidench/116/poor.html

I would really recommend watching it though, but I'm not sure about which film it is included in. It's called "Four Yorkshire Men", so you could try if you want. Highly recommendable!

[jravnsbo]

Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin Will Endorse Dean    

DES MOINES, Iowa - Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin endorsed Howard Dean (news - web sites) for president on Friday, calling him the "kind of plain-spoken Democrat we need," and giving a key boost to the embattled front-runner 10 days before the state's kick-off caucuses.

A formal afternoon announcement was scheduled at Dean's Iowa headquarters.

"He's the Harry Truman of our generation," Harkin said in interview with The Associated Press. "Howard Dean is really the kind of plain-spoken Democrat we need."


Harkin's support will give Dean the backing of the state's most durable Democratic politician, and a man whose organization can prove a vital asset on caucus night Jan 19.


Dean and his rivals for the nomination had all appealed to Harkin for backing, and the senator had said publicly in recent days he was weighing whether to choose sides, or perhaps remain neutral.

[Inmate Trump]

Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin Will Endorse Dean    

DES MOINES, Iowa - Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin endorsed Howard Dean (news - web sites) for president on Friday, calling him the "kind of plain-spoken Democrat we need," and giving a key boost to the embattled front-runner 10 days before the state's kick-off caucuses.

A formal afternoon announcement was scheduled at Dean's Iowa headquarters.

"He's the Harry Truman of our generation," Harkin said in interview with The Associated Press. "Howard Dean is really the kind of plain-spoken Democrat we need."


Harkin's support will give Dean the backing of the state's most durable Democratic politician, and a man whose organization can prove a vital asset on caucus night Jan 19.


Dean and his rivals for the nomination had all appealed to Harkin for backing, and the senator had said publicly in recent days he was weighing whether to choose sides, or perhaps remain neutral.

I think Harkin just handed Iowa to Dean.

And with Iowa and N.H., the nation...for the primary, anyway.

[jravnsbo]

me too.  Harkin has always been a liberal and ran as one openly in 1992.  So much for gephardt.

Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin Will Endorse Dean    

DES MOINES, Iowa - Iowa Sen. Tom Harkin endorsed Howard Dean (news - web sites) for president on Friday, calling him the "kind of plain-spoken Democrat we need," and giving a key boost to the embattled front-runner 10 days before the state's kick-off caucuses.

A formal afternoon announcement was scheduled at Dean's Iowa headquarters.

"He's the Harry Truman of our generation," Harkin said in interview with The Associated Press. "Howard Dean is really the kind of plain-spoken Democrat we need."


Harkin's support will give Dean the backing of the state's most durable Democratic politician, and a man whose organization can prove a vital asset on caucus night Jan 19.


Dean and his rivals for the nomination had all appealed to Harkin for backing, and the senator had said publicly in recent days he was weighing whether to choose sides, or perhaps remain neutral.

I think Harkin just handed Iowa to Dean.

And with Iowa and N.H., the nation...for the primary, anyway.

[© tweed]

Harkin is VERY liberal, but Vilsack could be considered a conservative.

If's somebody's in the center it seems as if they're a liberal.  Sad, really.

[jravnsbo]

?? Viltx or Vilspend as we like to call him came in in 1998 and before Bush even took office he had spent the rainy day fund that had been built up.

Plus Harkin has always been a liberal and proud of it, like Ted Kennedy is.

Harkin is VERY liberal, but Vilsack could be considered a conservative.

If's somebody's in the center it seems as if they're a liberal.  Sad, really.