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TJ in Oregon
TJ in Cleve
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 27, 2020, 11:27:50 PM »

Is there biblical precedent that show that animals have a soul or not in the Bible? Are they just there as mindless creatures for our use?

C’mon you scriptural readers, there has to be an answer to this on any possible biblical position?

To provide a little background here, there's a distinction between different usages of the word soul that are important. Our word soul comes through the Latin anima, which is translated as soul, but can also mean something closer to 'life principle' than how most people today understand the word soul. So in that context, yes, animals definitely have souls. This is in contrast to the word spirit, which is often used in the Bible to refer to the supernatural component of personhood, which people will commonly mean when they use the word 'soul' today. It's also worth noting that Biblical passages sometimes use the word 'soul' to encompass both the flesh and spirit, and sometimes just the spirit.

So moving right along beyond that, we do not have a clear revelation on whether or not animals go to heaven, but, the conventional understanding is that individual animals have souls but lack immortality cease to exist upon death. That being said, the Bible contains descriptions of heaven that include animals.  The conventional answer to this is usually that there will be dogs in heaven but not the same dog as your dog here on earth. But this is also speculative.
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TJ in Oregon
TJ in Cleve
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,948
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 10:29:24 PM »

If there is a heaven, they basically have to be, no? Because so many people would be unhappy as long as they didn't have their dogs there.

People only say such things because they are have little understanding (or a complete rejection) of the Christian vision of heaven, joy, and creation. Everything good they find in a dog only exists as a reflection of the innate and infinitely more full goodness of God who put it there. If someone truly loves dogs without loving their creator, then they create an idol of creation (and of themselves-- what they love, if not God's, must be a construct of their own design and thus that "love" is ultimately narcissistic), and I doubt they would have interest in or the ability to attain heaven in the first place.





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Seriously mods, we should really make separate boards for "religion" and "philosophy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentals
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