Opinion of School Modesty Club

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I don't think it's appropriate to judge kids in this public way.  They're too young to know what they're talking about one way or the other on this kind of nuanced issue.  In a few years, they're going to cringe when they read this article. 

That said, modesty is a weird, Victorian era concept.  It's basically has two purposes: 1. Make unattractive people feel better and 2. Force kids to wear appropriate clothing.  Sure, kids should wear appropriate clothing. But the idea that you should be modest about your appearance is delusional; you should take pride in looking your best.  Ultimately, people constantly judge you based on your physical appearance, regardless of whatever lies we tell each other.  Adults have to deal with that reality in life. Life rewards you for dressing appropriately for different social situations AND looking good.

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I hate the hypersexualisation of women's body in modern society, but I hate efforts to force a particular dresscode on women much more. Puritan, reactionary sh*t.

Force? This is a club we're talking about here.

The whole purpose of the club is to force a certain dress code on young girls via peer pressure.

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I hate the hypersexualisation of women's body in modern society, but I hate efforts to force a particular dresscode on women much more. Puritan, reactionary sh*t.

Force? This is a club we're talking about here.

The whole purpose of the club is to force a certain dress code on young girls via peer pressure.

Yeah and the school's Christian fellowship is the inquisition

Whether or not they're effective is irrelevant. I was simply stating what the whole point of this organization was, which is, to put it mildly, slut-shaming.

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I hate the hypersexualisation of women's body in modern society, but I hate efforts to force a particular dresscode on women much more. Puritan, reactionary sh*t.

Force? This is a club we're talking about here.

The whole purpose of the club is to force a certain dress code on young girls via peer pressure.

Yeah and the school's Christian fellowship is the inquisition

Whether or not they're effective is irrelevant. I was simply stating what the whole point of this organization was, which is, to put it mildly, slut-shaming.

So? Literally every club that advocates for something from the LGBT clubs down to the kids who volunteer at the soup kitchen try to make their favoured activity known and popular. There is nothing the modesty club is doing that any other club doesn't do.

LGBT clubs don't exist for the sole purpose of making kids feel bad about themselves.

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"Modesty Club" sounds negative and I don't like it, but the gist of it is that while at school it's time to work and not walk around half nude or in your pajamas or whatever you rolled out of bed in. I support that and think these kids have their heads screwed on, even if the name of the club is pretentious. I think they'd like just a little professionalism to catch on. When they go to work as adults, unless it's a strip club, they won't be walking around half nude or in what they wore to bed the previous night. Schools need to better prepare kids for both college and the professional world. There's a time and place to work, and a time and place to play.

Positive (D).

I agree that to an extent schools should prepare kids for the way the real world is (regardless of the way it should be), but for plenty of things, society has stricter standards for children than the real world does (in particular cursing, as was referenced in the article).

There's a difference between wanting dress to be professional and non-distracting, which is generally a positive goal in a school I suppose, and the sexist, slut-shaming, moralizing that these parents are brainwashing their poor children to preach.

What's wrong with slut shaming? Sluts and cads are a scourge on society.

Not a thing is wrong with it (assuming both male and female sluts are treated equally negatively), and schools should absolutely have a dress code.

Nothing is wrong with calling children or adults "sluts"? Nothing at all? What a strange moral compass you have. No person should be belittled because of what they do in their spare time if it doesn't hurt anybody.

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"Modesty Club" sounds negative and I don't like it, but the gist of it is that while at school it's time to work and not walk around half nude or in your pajamas or whatever you rolled out of bed in. I support that and think these kids have their heads screwed on, even if the name of the club is pretentious. I think they'd like just a little professionalism to catch on. When they go to work as adults, unless it's a strip club, they won't be walking around half nude or in what they wore to bed the previous night. Schools need to better prepare kids for both college and the professional world. There's a time and place to work, and a time and place to play.

Positive (D).

I agree that to an extent schools should prepare kids for the way the real world is (regardless of the way it should be), but for plenty of things, society has stricter standards for children than the real world does (in particular cursing, as was referenced in the article).

There's a difference between wanting dress to be professional and non-distracting, which is generally a positive goal in a school I suppose, and the sexist, slut-shaming, moralizing that these parents are brainwashing their poor children to preach.

What's wrong with slut shaming? Sluts and cads are a scourge on society.

Not a thing is wrong with it (assuming both male and female sluts are treated equally negatively), and schools should absolutely have a dress code.

Nothing is wrong with calling children or adults "sluts"? Nothing at all? What a strange moral compass you have. No person should be belittled because of what they do in their spare time if it doesn't hurt anybody.

Not that calling people sluts is remotely helpful, but 'anything is fine as long as it doesn't hurt anybody' is a specific moral belief, not a generic universal principle you can just expect people (particularly traditional Catholics such as realisticidealist) to agree with.

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I'd only add that widespread fornication most certainly does hurt people in the long run. It leads to the spread of disease, higher divorce rates, and single parenthood, all of which have very negative effects on our society.

Stopped reading at "fornication"

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"Modesty Club" sounds negative and I don't like it, but the gist of it is that while at school it's time to work and not walk around half nude or in your pajamas or whatever you rolled out of bed in. I support that and think these kids have their heads screwed on, even if the name of the club is pretentious. I think they'd like just a little professionalism to catch on. When they go to work as adults, unless it's a strip club, they won't be walking around half nude or in what they wore to bed the previous night. Schools need to better prepare kids for both college and the professional world. There's a time and place to work, and a time and place to play.

Positive (D).

I agree that to an extent schools should prepare kids for the way the real world is (regardless of the way it should be), but for plenty of things, society has stricter standards for children than the real world does (in particular cursing, as was referenced in the article).

There's a difference between wanting dress to be professional and non-distracting, which is generally a positive goal in a school I suppose, and the sexist, slut-shaming, moralizing that these parents are brainwashing their poor children to preach.

What's wrong with slut shaming? Sluts and cads are a scourge on society.

Not a thing is wrong with it (assuming both male and female sluts are treated equally negatively), and schools should absolutely have a dress code.

Nothing is wrong with calling children or adults "sluts"? Nothing at all? What a strange moral compass you have. No person should be belittled because of what they do in their spare time if it doesn't hurt anybody.

Not that calling people sluts is remotely helpful, but 'anything is fine as long as it doesn't hurt anybody' is a specific moral belief, not a generic universal principle you can just expect people (particularly traditional Catholics such as realisticidealist) to agree with.

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I'd only add that widespread fornication most certainly does hurt people in the long run. It leads to the spread of disease, higher divorce rates, and single parenthood, all of which have very negative effects on our society.

Stopped reading at "fornication"

How open minded you lefties are.

Where did I claim to be an open minded person? I'll look into your argument and call it BS when it's BS. The idea that casual sex or sex between unmarried people is inherently bad is a very dated way of viewing the world, one largely stuck in the era before...the car was invented and people started doing those sort of things. Besides, the things you mentioned (spread of disease, higher divorce rates, and single parenthood) don't necessarily flow from increased sexual activity -- condoms do well in preventing the spread of disease, as does better education. Higher divorce rates has less to do with changing sexual mores than it does with increasing economic inequality and a cultural shift away from the notion that "till death do us part" actually means that. Single parenthood is another phenomenon largely springing forth from increased economic inequality and a lack of social responsibility on behalf of some fathers and/or mothers.