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« on: June 16, 2011, 11:55:01 AM »

Believe it or not, there's actually a poll been done on this;

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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2011, 03:20:55 PM »

I think it's a bit of a strange notion, as I don't think most people of color in Europe are enfranchised enough on a national level to make an impact politically.  Maybe in the UK, but beyond that, I have a hard time conceptualizing a European Obama.

Is there even one person in this category that could be seen as being in the political "pipeline" in a European country?

Chuka Umunna seems to be never-endingly compared to Obama in our press. I may be misunderstanding you, but I doubt any possible minority would need to rely on his minority's vote to get elected?
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 01:35:22 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2011, 01:37:09 AM by Leftbehind »

Not sure why you have to go to the far-right to find equivalents to US parties. The modern Tory-New Labour were pretty naked attempts to copy Reagan/Clinton respectively. There's a few differences here and there, but the only thing that really separated contemporary UK politics from US is we had a three-party system, and thus a naive belief there was a possibility of escaping that right-wing dichotomy - which has since shown to be laughably false - and so we're on our way to losing that.

Chuka Umunna seems to be never-endingly compared to Obama in our press. I may be misunderstanding you, but I doubt any possible minority would need to rely on his minority's vote to get elected?

I'm not sure I understand your question.  I think a minority candidate would probably have to rely, in part, on strong support by his (and other) minority group.  Of course, the nature of being a minority means that the support will have to cross over to the majority group(s).

Essentially we agree - I'm saying that the idea of a minority candidate appealing to his/her minority would be very low on the list for a campaign that can be classed anywhere near a success - they'd be targeting their ideological vote. You could get a 'European Obama' without that though, surely?

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