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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 01, 2020, 11:13:32 PM »

Hot take: Minnesota is 2/3 Washington State, 1/3 North Dakota.

BLM might hurt Biden in the North Dakota part of Minnesota, but that's not where he's gonna get his support anyway.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2020, 11:25:56 PM »

Oh man, this didn't age well.

I don't blame OP, I also thought at first that the riots would help Trump in Minnesota greatly. But public opinion seems firmly on the side of the protesters, and Trump has not helped himself, calling for a violent crackdown and then hiding in a bunker. He wants to be a wartime leader, but his crisis management is absolutely god-awful and will most likely turn out moderates and non-voters against him.

I mean, it's only June. Who knows where we'll be by November. But as it stands right now, the ongoing situation is NOT helping Trump at all.

Yeah pretty much agree with you here.  At first this concerned me, like there would be a suburban backlash, but then Trump spoke and I remembered how Trump has been racial demagoguing for 4 years now and thought to myself... no actually suburban voters will think that Trump's rhetoric is to blame for this to begin with.

This video sums it up well:

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1267230766196355073

On a visceral level, I hate that they used the George Floyd video that way. I understand the rhetorical impact, and I agree with the message 100%, but that's a snuff film. OTOH, the nation needs to see that this happened. It needs to come to terms with what's going on. I'm torn.

I just hope they asked the family of George Floyd first.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 08:36:44 AM »

I never thought these protests would help Trump. When they become riots and incumbents act poorly they reflect badly on the incumbent.
So Trump is to blame for riots? Wow

Trump is to blame for rather than taking charge and trying to unify and heal the nation instead hiding in his bunker and throwing tantrums on Twitter blaming other people.
If dems biggest critique of Trump is tweets they're in deep crap

Says the guy who's candidate is down 6-8 points
According to the polls which have been notoriously wrong. Also it's only June 2nd.

It's worth pointing out that the 2016 national polls had Clinton up by 3.3 points, and she won the NPV by 2.1 points. The narrative that pollsters don't know what they're doing and are "notoriously wrong" is not supported by the numbers.

What the polls missed was the shift towards Trump in the last two weeks in PA, MI, and WI, which probably would have been reflected in the polls had the campaign gone on longer.
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