MP USA interest thread

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Sorry Scott, I was very busy today and couldn't post until now.

This is my proposal. It is based on Leinad's timeline on AH.com, called Hail Britannia.


Scenario One: Britain wins the ARW, forms a Imperial Federation in 1876.


Scenario Two: Britain wins the ARW, but America is limited to the eastern US.


Scenario Three: Britain wins the ARW, but expands.

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Personally, I think Scenario Three would be the easiest to use, because we have a good electoral map to base the project around and it's a bit more America-centric.

Prime Ministers of the Commonwealth of America.
1860-1865: Abraham Lincoln (Liberal-Conservative) (1)**
1865-1868: John MacDonald (Liberal-Conservative) (2)
1868-1876: Horatio Seymour (Liberal) (3)
1876-1880: James Blaine (Conservative) (4)
1880-1884: Edward Blake (Liberal) (5)
1884-1892: James Garfield (Conservative) (6)
1892-1900: Adlai Stevenson (Liberal) (7)
1900-1901: William McKinley (Conservative) (8)**
1901-1912: Joseph Cannon (Conservative) (9)
1912-1919: Woodrow Wilson (Liberal) (10)*
1919-1920: Thomas Marshall (Liberal) (11)
1920-1923: Warren Harding (Conservative) (12)*
1923-1930: Calvin Coolidge (Conservative) (13)
1930-1932: Richard Bennett (Conservative) (14)
1932-1945: Franklin Roosevelt (Liberal) (15)*
1945-1953: Harry Truman (Liberal) (16)
1953-1962: Harold Stassen (Progressive Conservative) (17)
1962-1968: Lyndon Johnson (Liberal) (18)
1968-1974: Richard Nixon (Progressive Conservative) (19)
1974-1976: Gerald Ford (Progressive Conservative) (20)
1976-1980: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal) (21)
1980-1993: George Bush (Progressive Conservative) (22)
1993-1993: Lynn Martin (Progressive Conservative) (23)
1993-1999: William Clinton (Liberal) (24)
1999-2005: Jean Chretien (Liberal) (25)
2005-2008: John McCain (Conservative - Reform coalition) (26)
2008-2010: Hillary Clinton (Liberal - Democratic coalition) (27)
2010-2015: Willard Romney (Conservative) (28)
2015-2023: Justin Trudeau (Liberal) (29)

Parties as of 2023.
Conservative (Paul Ryan):
Liberal (Justin Trudeau):
Democratic (Elizabeth Warren):
People's Alliance (Vivek Ramaswamy):
Green (Elizabeth May):
Reform (Justin Amash):
I also propose that we play as real life political figures rather than our Atlas profiles as we do in Atlasia.

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I have fourth map we could use. Will post tomorrow.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I have fourth map we could use. Will post tomorrow.

Can't wait to see it. Right now I also prefer map 3. I have to admit that the abolishment of traditional state borders is a bit peevish, but we don't have states anymore.

It's still early but I'm glad to see this gain some traction!

Actually map 3 retains most provincial/state borders. I’ll show you more details of that country’s lore in a bit.

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The problem with the Imperial Federation Map is that I don't have a blank version and it has been hard to edit thus far. The creator however did supply me with an MPs list.

List of Prime Ministers of the Imperial Federation.
1876-1880: Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative) (1)
1880-1881: Samuel Tilden (Conservative) (2)
1881-1886: William Gladstone (Liberal) (3)
1886-1889: Grover Cleveland (Conservative) (4)
1889-1892: William Gladstone (Liberal) (5)
1892-1896: Grover Cleveland (Conservative) (6)
1896-1906: Joseph Chamberlain (Imperial Unionist - Conservative) (7)
1906-1908: Arthur Balfour (Conservative - Liberal coalition) (8)
1908-1912: Wilfrid Laurier (Liberal - Progressive coalition) (9)
1912-1915: David Lloyd George (Liberal - Progressive coalition) (10)
1915-1919: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive - Liberal - Labour coalition) (11)
1919-1920: Robert LaFollette (Progressive - Liberal - Labour coalition) (12)
1920-1923: Andrew B. Law (Conservative) (13)*
1923-1930: Calvin Coolidge (Conservative) (14)
1930-1933: Richard Bennett (Conservative) (15)
1933-1938: Franklin Roosevelt (Labour) (16)
1938-1941: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative) (17)
1941-1945: Winston Churchill (War Government) (18)
1945-1951: Harry S. Truman (Labour) (19)
1951-1955: Winston Churchill (Conservative) (20)
1955-1957: Anthony Eden (Conservative) (21)
1957-1963: Robert Menzies (Conservative) (22)
1963-1964: Nelson Rockefeller (Conservative) (23)
1964-1970: Hubert Humphrey (Labour) (24)
1970-1974: Edward Heath (Conservative) (25)
1974-1976: Hubert Humphrey (Labour) (26)
1976-1980: Pierre Trudeau (Labour) (27)
1980-1981: George Bush (Conservative - Liberal coalition) (28)
1981-1985: Walter Mondale (Labour - Liberal coalition) (29)
1985-1993: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative) (30)
1993-2003: Joseph Biden (Labour) (31)
2003-2005: Anthony Blair (Labour) (32)
2005-2010: Stephen Harper (Conservative) (33)
2010-2011: Jack Layton (Labour) (34)*
2011-2018: David Milliband (Labour) (35)
2018-2022: Paul Ryan (Conservative) (36)

Parties as of 2023:
Labour (Jacinda Arden): Social Democracy, progressivism, trade unionism, left-wing.
Conservative (Paul Ryan): Conservatism, unionism, economic liberalism, center-right.
People's Alliance (Nigel Farage): Unionism, Euroscepticism, national conservatism, right-wing populism.
Liberal (Justin Amash): Libertarianism, federalism, constitutionalism, center-right.
Red - Green Alliance (Jeremy Corbyn/Elizabeth May): Eco-socialism, environmentalism, community politics.
Scottish National (Nicola Sturgeon): Scottish separatism, republicanism, social democracy.
Bloc Quebecois (Mario Beaulieu): Quebec separatism, republicanism, social democracy.
Sinn Fein (Gerry Adams): Irish separatism, republicanism, socialism.
Plaid Cymru (Adam Price): Welsh nationalism, social democracy, regionalism.
Party for Freedom (Tommy Robinson): British nationalism, social conservatism, nativism, far-right.

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The problem with the Imperial Federation Map is that I don't have a blank version and it has been hard to edit thus far. The creator however did supply me with an MPs list.
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This is an interesting list, but obviously we're not including separatist parties (all but maybe one or two playable parties should have a chance to win an election) I think we should expand it to create a competitive party from the left that has a chance at being able to form a government, in addition to a left-wing coalition partner.

Name changes I would make for both the OP and this list:

Progressive Party -> Labour Party
Red-Green Party/Green Party -> Red-Green Coalition
Libertarian -> Liberal

Maybe the Loyalist Party can just absorb the Party for Freedom. That will be our token unelectable kook party whose player is our court jester.

I will get started on these changes in a second and adjust the list.

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Adding Canda/Commonwealth politics into the mix would kind of make this more of a chore for me (just because I don't know as much about these places as the good ol' US of A.) 

I think we'd get more realistic, informed RP if we stuck to a USA-only setting. 

Yeah I agree with Del Tachi on this, although I support a USA+Canada setting.  Having the Commonwealth in this would make this a lot more complicated than just having the US (and Canada).

This is very true. I have provided two opposing scenarios (Commonwealth of America vs. Imperial Federation), perhaps a potential poll can settle this?

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I would be happy to create detailed DRA maps for this scenario once informed of the redistircting parameters.

Oh sick! Thanks! I have a map already but the more detailed and accurate, the better. Would you be able to draw districts in Canada as well?

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Sorry, I had forgotten about this myself, but I am definitely still interested. We can use the original American Commonwealth map.

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Just thought it would be appropriate at this time to confirm this project is still in the works and I have spoken to Sanchez about this recently. The thing is I'm not exactly a mapmaker (other than messing around with DRA occasionally), so that will be left to Sanchez while I write most of the stories - which both of us grade the leadership/campaign quality of the parties.

I'd love to get the ball rolling on this myself but please be patient.

Sorry for the delay, this is still on my mind. I am working bits and pieces on the background still. I'll finish the MPs list soon.