Republican National Convention **live commentary thread**

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I love how the DNC had celebrities like Eva Longoria as speakers while our convention is filled with regular, everyday Americans like the McCloskeys, the Covington kid, and Alice Marie Johnson.

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I love how the DNC had celebrities like Eva Longoria as speakers while our convention is filled with regular, everyday Americans like the McCloskeys, the Covington kid, and Alice Marie Johnson.

The McCloskeys are super rich people who live in a mansion and constantly sue people to get their own way. On what planet do you live on where they are "everyday Americans"?

Everybody can relate to protecting their property. Their wealth and mansion have nothing to do with George Floyd. Most white middle class Americans, even those who are slightly sympathetic to BLM, saw a scene that has nothing to do with a protest outside a police station or courthouse.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I love how the DNC had celebrities like Eva Longoria as speakers while our convention is filled with regular, everyday Americans like the McCloskeys, the Covington kid, and Alice Marie Johnson.

The McCloskeys are super rich people who live in a mansion and constantly sue people to get their own way. On what planet do you live on where they are "everyday Americans"?

Everybody can relate to protecting their property. Their wealth and mansion have nothing to do with George Floyd. Most white middle class Americans, even those who are slightly sympathetic to BLM, saw a scene that has nothing to do with a protest outside a police station or courthouse.

You'd be right if you weren't just so wrong:

So it turns out the idea that the protesters tore down the McCloskey's gate to enter their property is false. The gate belonged to the neighborhood, and there is also video confirmation that they just opened it up and walked through without breaking/entering. The gate did end up broken so, maybe someone near the back of the line vandalized it or something, but it's a little different than the way the narrative is portraying it.

Next, it turns out that the idea that the protesters trespassed on the McCloskey's property is exaggerated and potentially false. Yes, they did trespass in the neighborhood since they weren't there by invitation, but they were walking on the streets and sidewalks. The crowd was in the neighborhood to protest at the mayor's house and no one knew or cared who the McCloskeys even were. The only connection is that they happened to walk by their house. I obviously don't have access to the property deeds to ensure that no protester set foot on any McCloskey property before the confrontation, but if they did it was inadvertent and inconsequential.

Finally, the idea that it was a violent, angry mob who threatened the lives of the McCloskeys appears to be false, at least almost entirely false with vanishingly few exceptions. The crowd was by all accounts peaceful until the McCloskeys revved it up by threatening them and pointing guns. Some protesters said some ugly things in response, including at least 1 threat on the level of what the McCloskeys were throwing at the protesters. However, had the McCloskeys just stayed in their house, the protesters would have just kept on walking by and everything would have been fine for everyone, because as I pointed out, the protesters weren't there for the McCloskeys. They were walking past that house to get to the mayor's house.

I'm just not seeing anyway for the McCloskeys to be in the right on this. The protesters had nothing to do with the McCloskeys until the McCloskeys decided to have something to do with them, and it was the McCloskeys who escalated the encounter to include threats and pointing guns. The fact that the Trumpist side has to make up a fake narrative about them in order to have a competent-sounding defense speaks volumes.

Go to the McCloskey thread, Bruce. I like you, but you're wrong on this one. I responded to you and Harry there.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

All I can say is that I LOVED the introduction video. That should be an ad.

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Let's be real, the presentation is more professional than the DNC.

No, this is a really low-budget production. It's like somebody's homemade sh*t (probably because it is, given how much time they had to put this together).

It looks good enough to me on C-SPAN. No different then Democratic Convention all in all. The only flaw I've noticed is the weird camera angles that they used on Matt Gaetz.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

MSNBC and Fox News are no longer carrying the RNC

Well yeah. MSNBC is openly and outright hateful of Trump and Fox News's top figures are all desperately trying to balance their audience's agenda (ie, Trump) or the globalist power structures's agenda. This isn't news to anyone.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Do they really speak like that in WV?

She sounded like one of my mom's cousins....and that side of the family is from WV

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'm actually enjoying the format. I'm now regretting missing most of the DNC. I still like the in-person convention, but this change isn't so bad all in all.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'm liking the McCloskey's portion so far. I think they're story is going to be very effective.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'm actually enjoying the format. I'm now regretting missing most of the DNC. I still like the in-person convention, but this change isn't so bad all in all.

My thoughts exactly

Hopefully next time we get a hybrid with combinations of the good from both

Think of it this way: the good speakers (Michelle Obama, Matt Gaetz, etc) would make fantastic speeches before loud cheering audiences. But video presentations offer both parties an easy and effective means of giving regular every day people a voice before a national audience. The McCloskeys wouldn't be that effective if they had a crowd before them. But the videotaped remarks are more appealing than I remembered.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Kimberly Guilfoyle's speech sounds ridiculous without a live audience. Someone needs to whisper in her ear to quit yelling for Christ's sake!

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Ok someone really needs to tell her to cool it. I can already see the SNL sketch now.

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Just imagine what would have happened had a black couple pulled guns on Q-Anon or Tea Party protesters.

I'm sure some Qanon and Tea Party people have been robbed before somewhere along the line.

Did someone piss in Kimberly Guilfoyle’s Cheerios or something?

That was the Dean Scream of our decade.

Wow... she sounds like when Dwight from the Office gave his speech at the PA paper conference.

YES.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The single-family zoning line turned Pat McCloskey from “generic Fox News guest” to “embodient of why I’m not proud to be an American”.

You can always emigrate, you know.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This is really, really, really good.

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The kid got treated very badly and very unfairly, but I don't like him evoking Lincoln for this purpose.

Yeah, I think the giant Lincoln Memorial is a bit distracting. That's where it happened though.

This kid is complaining about “professional protesters” when he went to the March for Life? He knows who the people who are always outside of abortion clinics are, right?

You mean good people?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

https://mobile.twitter.com/StuPolitics/status/1298428528808132608

Did he have a little cocaine for that edge?

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This kid is complaining about “professional protesters” when he went to the March for Life? He knows who the people who are always outside of abortion clinics are, right?

You mean good people?

Intimidating women trying to get a medical procedure is not a thing good people do.

"Medical procedure"

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This is just garbage.

Plenty of speakers tonight were good, this is just trash.

Even people on our side admit that Eric is dumber than a bag of rocks.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This whole convention has been fantastic.

Blasting the warmongering elite. Fking love it

I freaking love the new GOP.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

HE CALLED OUT OBAMAGATE!

Dems are sweating bullets. Durham is coming.

Look how angry they get when people predict a Trump victory. That says it all.

lol @ the blue avatars

This is what I'm talking about.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This whole convention has been fantastic.

Blasting the warmongering elite. Fking love it

I freaking love the new GOP.

THE OLD RIGHT IS BACK

It's like my politically wildest dream coming true.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This whole convention has been fantastic.

Blasting the warmongering elite. Fking love it

I freaking love the new GOP.

If the new GOP hates warmongering, then why does our fat bloated military keep getting absurd budget increases?

Has that budget been used to launch a massive (and unjustified) invasion of Iraq? No? What about the wars with Iran and North Korea? What ever happened to that? Just because he's stupidly expanding our military doesn't mean he intends to use it. In fact, Trump has repeatedly shown extreme restraint on the global stage.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I like the guy, but Pence just doesn't have "it." I hope he doesn't run in 2024.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This whole convention has been fantastic.

Blasting the warmongering elite. Fking love it

I freaking love the new GOP.

If the new GOP hates warmongering, then why does our fat bloated military keep getting absurd budget increases?

Has that budget been used to launch a massive (and unjustified) invasion of Iraq? No? What about the wars with Iran and North Korea? What ever happened to that? Just because he's stupidly expanding our military doesn't mean he intends to use it. In fact, Trump has repeatedly shown extreme restraint on the global stage.

The money is still being wasted to the tune of trillions. Where is the money going?

The same place the money has always gone - the military industrial complex.