US troops to enter Uganda

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/14/obama-sends-us-troops-to-central-africa-to-aid-campaign-against-rebel-group/

Imperial war #6! ......

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We have no business there. Its as simple as that, we have had 20 years to do something, and we didnt. We shouldnt even waste our time with the Taliban, none the less this group.

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We're not even fighting, just giving field advice to the actual soldiers.

Thats how Vietnam started...

Destroying the Lord's Rape-and-massacre Army is obviously a good thing.

I hate them as much as you, but is it our job? I certainly am in favor of weapons and aid to the Ugandan army, but not actual soldiers. Remeber, the actual Ugandan government is just as evil as the LRA.

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If this is just a militia, then the AU can handle it...

Remeber, the actual Ugandan government is just as evil as the LRA.

That's an interesting thing to say.

Thats the same government which executes Homosexuals...

BTW calling this "imperial" is one of the most f**king stupid things I have ever read. Even if the US had some desire to annex Uganda or turn it into a colony, that would have nothing to do with defeating the Lord's Resistance Army.

Its another over reach by our forces. Unlike Canada, where our military advisors are not chasing rebels into the bush, we will likely have casualties. The LRA, no matter the size, is evil, brutal, and willing to kill. That being said, we still have no business there. We are NOT the worlds police, and we shouldn't help Uganda. If Obama is so interested in global peace, then we should stop killing Libyans in air raids, stop arming drug cartels, and stop proping up radically homophobic regimes in the dead center of Africa.

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For those who say "it's none of our business", would you want foreign intervention if this stuff was happening in the US?

BTW, this makes the seventh conflict that the US is currently involved.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Uganda, Korea..is the 7th Somalia? Or am I missing something.

No one would help us if this happened in the US, and if it did, Ugandas help would be sending a box of Scooby Doo bandaids.

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stop proping up radically homophobic regimes in the dead center of Africa.

Whoa!

I'm going to assume one of two things...

1) You don't have a passport and have never actually been to sub Saharan Africa.
2) You actually know something about the history and culture of at least a few black African people but have chosen to purposefully slander them with your gross distortion.

Having actually been to Africa and spoken with real live Africans I queried them about their antihomosexual laws.  The reason I asked was because there didn't seem to be any actual African homosexuals anywhere I went.  Indeed the people I spoke to were not aware of an equivalent word for homosexuality in their language.  It was not something they really thought about.  Upon further investigation a couple of them revealed that there was an issue with EUROPEAN tourists coming on sex vacations and enticing ($$) poor young boys to engage in that sort of behavior.  Obviously something had to be done.  The situation was further exacerbated when the AMERICAN fundamentalist Christian types showed up on the scene.  Well of course they started in with their whole homophobia schtick.  Since homosexuality was a foreign concept to these people it worked exceedingly well for the purposes of fundamentalist Christian Americans.  They could pack a church with all kinds of horror stories about homosexuals stealing young children.  That along with the sporadic urban legendesque story of a European that someone's cousin's friend's neighbor's mailman once saw enticing a boy with $$ led to the current state of affairs.  To somehow suggest that extremist homophobia in subSaharan Africa is some kind of home grown phenomenon in which Europe and America are blameless is a slur against the people of Africa.

What? Im talking about the government. Not the people, I have never heard of an openly gay Ugandan. I could do research on that, and find out if their actually is a major LBGT rights movement there. Are their homosexuals? I dont know. Its still illegal none the less.

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What are you trying to prove? That Uganda government have a very poor human rights record? We all know that already.

However, again, compare this LRA record. You still are going to claim both sides are equally "bad"?

We shouldn't be there. I'm proving that no matter whose in power or who we help, were just going to be proping up an authortatian regime.

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stop proping up radically homophobic regimes in the dead center of Africa.

Whoa!

I'm going to assume one of two things...

1) You don't have a passport and have never actually been to sub Saharan Africa.
2) You actually know something about the history and culture of at least a few black African people but have chosen to purposefully slander them with your gross distortion.

Having actually been to Africa and spoken with real live Africans I queried them about their antihomosexual laws.  The reason I asked was because there didn't seem to be any actual African homosexuals anywhere I went.  Indeed the people I spoke to were not aware of an equivalent word for homosexuality in their language.  It was not something they really thought about.  Upon further investigation a couple of them revealed that there was an issue with EUROPEAN tourists coming on sex vacations and enticing ($$) poor young boys to engage in that sort of behavior.  Obviously something had to be done.  The situation was further exacerbated when the AMERICAN fundamentalist Christian types showed up on the scene.  Well of course they started in with their whole homophobia schtick.  Since homosexuality was a foreign concept to these people it worked exceedingly well for the purposes of fundamentalist Christian Americans.  They could pack a church with all kinds of horror stories about homosexuals stealing young children.  That along with the sporadic urban legendesque story of a European that someone's cousin's friend's neighbor's mailman once saw enticing a boy with $$ led to the current state of affairs.  To somehow suggest that extremist homophobia in subSaharan Africa is some kind of home grown phenomenon in which Europe and America are blameless is a slur against the people of Africa.

What? Im talking about the government. Not the people, I have never heard of an openly gay Ugandan. I could do research on that, and find out if their actually is a major LBGT rights movement there. Are their homosexuals? I dont know. Its still illegal none the less.

Again I'm assuming you are saying this as someone who has never been anywhere near Uganda.  Anti-homosexual fervor has been whipped up in various African countries by fundamentalist American Christians.  Politicians in Africa are the same as politicians in America.  Once there is a boogeyman that their people have been duped into thinking is real they can be easily distracted from real problems.  Your claim that this whole anti-homosexual issue was cooked up in cultures that don't even have a word for homosexual is the height of western arrogance.



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What are you getting at? Im 15. Ofcourse I have never been to Uganda. Im not blaming the people. Its the government. They are listening to these fundamentalist. I saw one of them debate Rachel Maddow. But the fact that the government listens to them is enough for me to say Uganda has a homophobic government. So strop trying to win this arguement, because neither of us seem to be debating anymore. Your just throwing out words like "racism, intolerance" and the like. Whats your point? You have none. Your just being condescending to me. Everything you say seems empty. Just loud noises (in a text format ).

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Again, the LRA is a terrorist group, they have no international support to speak of, the ICC has issued a warrant for Kony, and the U.S. troops will not be engaging in combat operations.

We wont be engaging in combat---until LRA soldiers attack a convoy and we chase them into the bush. Then this cycle will repeat 1000 times.