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« on: October 14, 2011, 03:09:47 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/14/obama-sends-us-troops-to-central-africa-to-aid-campaign-against-rebel-group/

Imperial war #6! Smiley......
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 03:15:36 PM »

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. . . as I'm sure is the case in every other nation in the world, except these guys are in uniforms.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 03:19:47 PM »

This is barely anything--100 soldiers in a clearly international operation, and the enemy is easily the most brutal militia on the planet.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 03:35:29 PM »

We have no business there. Its as simple as that, we have had 20 years to do something, and we didnt. We shouldnt even waste our time with the Taliban, none the less this group.
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 03:52:44 PM »

We're not even fighting, just giving field advice to the actual soldiers.
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 04:51:58 PM »

Destroying the Lord's Rape-and-massacre Army is obviously a good thing.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2011, 05:03:48 PM »

We're not even fighting, just giving field advice to the actual soldiers.
Thats how Vietnam started...
Destroying the Lord's Rape-and-massacre Army is obviously a good thing.
I hate them as much as you, but is it our job? I certainly am in favor of weapons and aid to the Ugandan army, but not actual soldiers. Remeber, the actual Ugandan government is just as evil as the LRA.
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2011, 06:21:17 PM »

Remeber, the actual Ugandan government is just as evil as the LRA.

That's an interesting thing to say.
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« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2011, 06:33:26 PM »

This is barely anything--100 soldiers in a clearly international operation, and the enemy is easily the most brutal militia on the planet.

Yet they are merely a militia.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2011, 07:14:16 PM »

we have had 20 years to do something, and we didnt.

Eerrr... yeah.  I think that's why he's doing it.  I guess being awarded a Noble Peace Prize is sorta the way the world gives you the biggest guilt trip in the history of the planet.
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2011, 07:15:47 PM »

We're not even fighting, just giving field advice to the actual soldiers.
Thats how Vietnam started...

Even an staunch Obama supporter has to pause and think about that.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2011, 12:35:16 AM »

We're not even fighting, just giving field advice to the actual soldiers.
Thats how Vietnam started...

Even an staunch Obama supporter has to pause and think about that.

Except Vietnam was a full fledged civil war against another side that had international backing including the world's other superpower, while the LRA is nothing more than a petty band of thugs mostly militarily defeated and a pariah group to every country in the world.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2011, 12:59:00 AM »

BTW calling this "imperial" is one of the most f**king stupid things I have ever read. Even if the US had some desire to annex Uganda or turn it into a colony, that would have nothing to do with defeating the Lord's Resistance Army.
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2011, 01:56:02 AM »

BTW calling this "imperial" is one of the most f**king stupid things I have ever read. Even if the US had some desire to annex Uganda or turn it into a colony, that would have nothing to do with defeating the Lord's Resistance Army.
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This.

Joseph Kony has a warrant for his arrest from the ICC.  The entire world has called for this man and his private army to be erased.  It's about time the US did its part in the effort to bring justice to Northern Uganda.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2011, 02:09:48 AM »

The Canadian posters might be surprised to learn that their country is under a brutal imperialistic US military occupation as there are far more than 100 US military advisors in Canada.
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2011, 04:04:20 AM »

We have no business there. Its as simple as that, we have had 20 years to do something, and we didnt. We shouldnt even waste our time with the Taliban, none the less this group.

Just because it wasn'[t done in the past, doesn't mean it shouldn't be done now.

Anti-Americanism stems in part from a feeling that the US is the world's policeman, and it is a petulant, selective one. The two ways to counter this impression are to stop policing, or to police fairly. If any action was fair, this'd be it.
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2011, 06:46:33 AM »

I don't see what's wrong with this at all.
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2011, 02:07:53 PM »

If this is just a militia, then the AU can handle it...

Remeber, the actual Ugandan government is just as evil as the LRA.

That's an interesting thing to say.
Thats the same government which executes Homosexuals...

BTW calling this "imperial" is one of the most f**king stupid things I have ever read. Even if the US had some desire to annex Uganda or turn it into a colony, that would have nothing to do with defeating the Lord's Resistance Army.
Its another over reach by our forces. Unlike Canada, where our military advisors are not chasing rebels into the bush, we will likely have casualties. The LRA, no matter the size, is evil, brutal, and willing to kill. That being said, we still have no business there. We are NOT the worlds police, and we shouldn't help Uganda. If Obama is so interested in global peace, then we should stop killing Libyans in air raids, stop arming drug cartels, and stop proping up radically homophobic regimes in the dead center of Africa.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2011, 02:41:08 PM »

For those who say "it's none of our business", would you want foreign intervention if this stuff was happening in the US?

BTW, this makes the seventh conflict that the US is currently involved.
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2011, 02:53:38 PM »

For those who say "it's none of our business", would you want foreign intervention if this stuff was happening in the US?

BTW, this makes the seventh conflict that the US is currently involved.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Uganda, Korea..is the 7th Somalia? Or am I missing something.

No one would help us if this happened in the US, and if it did, Ugandas help would be sending a box of Scooby Doo bandaids.
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2011, 02:56:02 PM »
« Edited: October 15, 2011, 02:58:21 PM by Michael A. Naso, Jr.'s BDSM »

If this is just a militia, then the AU can handle it...

Remeber, the actual Ugandan government is just as evil as the LRA.

That's an interesting thing to say.
Thats the same government which executes Homosexuals...

Uganda does not punish homosexuals with death. Check your sources. An actual project to do this was frozen in the parliament after international reaction.

I'm not defending human rights abuse of Ugandan government, of course, but when compared to the LRA, they are freaking angels.
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2011, 02:57:21 PM »

For those who say "it's none of our business", would you want foreign intervention if this stuff was happening in the US?

BTW, this makes the seventh conflict that the US is currently involved.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Uganda, Korea..is the 7th Somalia? Or am I missing something.

No one would help us if this happened in the US, and if it did, Ugandas help would be sending a box of Scooby Doo bandaids.

You can't compare full-scale invasion and occupation of Iraq or even bombing campaign in Libya with merely sending 100 advisors.

Another Vietnam? Give me a break. You really think Obama would dare to send combat troops here, or Congress would dare to approve this? Please...
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2011, 03:01:50 PM »

For those who say "it's none of our business", would you want foreign intervention if this stuff was happening in the US?
No one would help us if this happened in the US



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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2011, 03:18:34 PM »

stop proping up radically homophobic regimes in the dead center of Africa.

Whoa!

I'm going to assume one of two things...

1) You don't have a passport and have never actually been to sub Saharan Africa.
2) You actually know something about the history and culture of at least a few black African people but have chosen to purposefully slander them with your gross distortion.

Having actually been to Africa and spoken with real live Africans I queried them about their antihomosexual laws.  The reason I asked was because there didn't seem to be any actual African homosexuals anywhere I went.  Indeed the people I spoke to were not aware of an equivalent word for homosexuality in their language.  It was not something they really thought about.  Upon further investigation a couple of them revealed that there was an issue with EUROPEAN tourists coming on sex vacations and enticing ($$) poor young boys to engage in that sort of behavior.  Obviously something had to be done.  The situation was further exacerbated when the AMERICAN fundamentalist Christian types showed up on the scene.  Well of course they started in with their whole homophobia schtick.  Since homosexuality was a foreign concept to these people it worked exceedingly well for the purposes of fundamentalist Christian Americans.  They could pack a church with all kinds of horror stories about homosexuals stealing young children.  That along with the sporadic urban legendesque story of a European that someone's cousin's friend's neighbor's mailman once saw enticing a boy with $$ led to the current state of affairs.  To somehow suggest that extremist homophobia in subSaharan Africa is some kind of home grown phenomenon in which Europe and America are blameless is a slur against the people of Africa.
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2011, 03:35:53 PM »

stop proping up radically homophobic regimes in the dead center of Africa.

Whoa!

I'm going to assume one of two things...

1) You don't have a passport and have never actually been to sub Saharan Africa.
2) You actually know something about the history and culture of at least a few black African people but have chosen to purposefully slander them with your gross distortion.

Having actually been to Africa and spoken with real live Africans I queried them about their antihomosexual laws.  The reason I asked was because there didn't seem to be any actual African homosexuals anywhere I went.  Indeed the people I spoke to were not aware of an equivalent word for homosexuality in their language.  It was not something they really thought about.  Upon further investigation a couple of them revealed that there was an issue with EUROPEAN tourists coming on sex vacations and enticing ($$) poor young boys to engage in that sort of behavior.  Obviously something had to be done.  The situation was further exacerbated when the AMERICAN fundamentalist Christian types showed up on the scene.  Well of course they started in with their whole homophobia schtick.  Since homosexuality was a foreign concept to these people it worked exceedingly well for the purposes of fundamentalist Christian Americans.  They could pack a church with all kinds of horror stories about homosexuals stealing young children.  That along with the sporadic urban legendesque story of a European that someone's cousin's friend's neighbor's mailman once saw enticing a boy with $$ led to the current state of affairs.  To somehow suggest that extremist homophobia in subSaharan Africa is some kind of home grown phenomenon in which Europe and America are blameless is a slur against the people of Africa.
What? Im talking about the government. Not the people, I have never heard of an openly gay Ugandan. I could do research on that, and find out if their actually is a major LBGT rights movement there. Are their homosexuals? I dont know. Its still illegal none the less.
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