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« on: March 26, 2016, 06:43:12 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Hillary won two out three states tonight.

Me neither, I think she may win all 3 states - Hilldawg will get a surprise sweep!

I think they will admit a new state and have them vote today so that she can win 4 states today!
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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2016, 03:49:02 PM »

Wow, I bet you can't find an area of 1500 voters that went 98% Bernie even in Vermont. Of course I'm sure there were some precincts where all 5 voters went Bernie.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2016, 03:56:55 PM »

Is Seattle going to be the first major urban center to go for Bernie? Because pretty much all big cities that have voted so far have gone for Clinton, even Boston.

Minneapolis/St. Paul and Denver.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2016, 04:22:03 PM »

If he continues to get 75%-85% of the vote in Alaska, he'll win the delegates 13-3.
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jfern
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2016, 05:40:04 PM »


And, unlike Bernie's college student base, actually vote in midterm elections as well. Reorienting the party towards young people is stupid.

The Berniebots think that winning young liberal white men and Blacks will be a winning coalition in the general. Nominating this guy would pretty much kill us in November. That's why I'm glad it's not happening.

LOL, Bernie was just up 24 points in a nationwide general election poll.
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jfern
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2016, 05:45:29 PM »


And, unlike Bernie's college student base, actually vote in midterm elections as well. Reorienting the party towards young people is stupid.

The Berniebots think that winning young liberal white men and Blacks will be a winning coalition in the general. Nominating this guy would pretty much kill us in November. That's why I'm glad it's not happening.

LOL, Bernie was just up 24 points in a nationwide general election poll.

And? You think these polls mean sh*t? Clinton was up 24 points a year ago as well.

They're not getting any closer for Bernie.
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jfern
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2016, 05:46:38 PM »


And, unlike Bernie's college student base, actually vote in midterm elections as well. Reorienting the party towards young people is stupid.

Nobody said college students, Comrade Funk said labor, a group that does vote in midterms.

Well good thing labor unions have overwhelmingly endorsed Clinton then.

There is a difference between union leaders and everyday union members. That being said the International Longshore and Warehouse Union just endorsed Sanders.

 Clinton won union members in every state. Even Michigan.

Bernie even won blacks in Vermont, so I'm sure he won union members there too. And I'm sure he won union members in some other states.
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jfern
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2016, 05:49:44 PM »

The Berniebots celebrating this Alaska win reminds me of the Romney supporters clapping and cheering when Alaska was called for them, even though they had already lost the election an hour ago.

No need to be salty just because Sanders won a state.

I'm not salty. I'm just annoyed at delusional Berniebots who act as if their hero and savior can still win this race when it's clearly over.

While they're annoyed at constantly being called Bernibots. Maybe the animosity can be fixed by not insulting people constantly.

Well, at least it's not as bad as "BernieBro", but yeah, it seems like attacking Bernie supporters is the cool thing among 3rd wayers. Bill Clinton compared us to the Tea Party.
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jfern
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2016, 05:51:46 PM »
« Edited: March 26, 2016, 05:53:22 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »


ahahahahahahahahaha You don't realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?

'BERNIE DID WELL WITH MINORITIES!!!!'

- 'When and Where?'

- 'WITH...UH... BLACKS!!!'

- 'Wait... what? Where?'

- 'IN...... UH........ VERMONT!'

Dude, I was just refuting the obviously false statement that Hillary won union members in every state. Of course Bernie won Vermont union members (as well as those in many other states) if he even won Vermont blacks. My point wasn't about blacks, but the idea that Hillary won Vermont union members is completely absurd.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2016, 05:59:27 PM »

Such a reverse sweep isn't happening and you know it. NY, PA, CA, MD, DE and NJ aren't 90%+ White so Bernie won't win there. I don't give a sh*t about Clinton losing Alaska, Montana or Idaho lol.

Alaska is only 62% non Hispanic white. Bernie is probably winning the Native population big time.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2016, 06:46:28 PM »

Sanders: “We knew we would do poorly in the Deep South. That’s a conservative part of the country.”

Says the moron who won Oklahoma, Kansas, Utah and Idaho.
And then wonders why teh niggas won't support him.

The deep south is conservative in ways that Utah is not.

http://www.npr.org/2015/12/10/459100751/utah-reduced-chronic-homelessness-by-91-percent-heres-how
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2016, 07:38:36 PM »

I would've thought Clinton would do better in Yakima. There's a decent Latino population there.

Yeah, more Hispanics than non Hispanic whites. I guess they didn't get the message that they weren't supposed to vote Bernie.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2016, 07:42:24 PM »

I know it doesn't have implications for other states, but Sanders obviously won among minorities here in WA. We'll see if he can do it in HI. Wink

He obviously won them in Alaska too.
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2016, 08:58:50 PM »

It looks like Bernie stays over 70% in Washington to me. King makes it closer, but I think Spokane and Clark can partially mitigate that.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2016, 09:05:18 PM »

I wonder if Bernie is doing better with conservadems. Hawaii has a surprisingly large number of them, voting for candidates like Hanabusa.

It could be a weird dynamic with Gabbard having endorsed him.
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2016, 11:25:27 PM »

I go to CNN to check Hawaii coverage and instead see Jesus saving a woman.

At least they're covering a Jewish socialist who worked as a carpenter.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2016, 12:08:45 AM »

Washington delegates are probably 73-27 with 1 way too close to call.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2016, 01:31:16 AM »

Based on reddit's results, Sanders is at 77% in both Hawaii and Maui counties, 82% in Kauai County, and 64% in Honolulu County.

That's sounding like a 17-8 delegate split, with the 1st district splitting 5-3 and the 2nd district splitting 6-2.
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jfern
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2016, 02:10:48 AM »

Your couple minutes has just ended. And still no results. Again, this is why:

The Hawaii caucus wasn't actually held. DWS canceled it and did some fake reporting of turnout so no one realizes until a couple days from now. Any protests will be ignored, and a carefully regulated state convention will be held later, where a 100% Hillary delegate slate will be selected for the national convention.

I'm starting to believe you.

She even made up this story to make it seem legit.



https://twitter.com/Parker9_/status/713907623205076993
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jfern
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2016, 02:56:02 AM »


71% in Hawaii?

Is this real? We're winning by a much bigger margin than I thought. Hillbots were saying Hawaii is Obama's state & what not.

Imagine Sanders winning Hawaii with the same margin as Alaska

It's legit, the NY Times has the same numbers. I think you're forgetting how good Bernie's margin in Alaska was, though.
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jfern
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2016, 03:19:36 AM »

Muh nonwhites must have had 0% turnout

Yea right! Hawaii has barely 20-25% Whites, full of Asians, some natives!

One of the smallest white states - wow!

By far the least white. Hawaii is 23%. California and NM are 2nd and 3rd place with around 39%.
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jfern
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2016, 03:59:37 AM »

Asians are less disenfranchised than white people. They're also more reasonable, from what I can tell. The only more reasonable minority group is Native Americans.

I've been unable to find any information on Asians in Hawaii. I assume they are generally as rich as Whites in Hawaii?

Asians are richer than whites but Native Hawaiians are poorer than whites. Less difference between the races than in the US as a whole.

http://www.usa.com/hawaii-state-income-and-careers.htm
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jfern
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2016, 05:07:31 AM »

Is Hawaii just going to stay at 88% in?
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jfern
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2016, 11:32:51 PM »


Hillary didn't lose every county on Saturday.  Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2016, 05:23:30 AM »

Arizona result is changing - Hillary down to 56 or 57%, Sanders at 41% - All ballots are being tallied. Would probably end up 58-42 after giving away the others.

Lots of people voting in Provisional ballots due to ballots finished or wrong tallying etc being changed. Still 1000's of provisional ballots not counted - The issue is being taken up the court. Don't know what will happen.

Sanders getting over 40% statewide there means another delegate, I believe.

He wouldn't get any more from the statewide delegates, but there's a good chance he could pickup another delegate in the 1st district, and maybe in the 2nd or 6th districts.
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