DNC software breach gave Sanders campaign confidential Clinton Data

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The vendor says the export was a 1 page summary without voter information.

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http://blog.ngpvan.com/news/data-security-and-privacy#.VnRxJVbm-RA.facebook

http://time.com/4155185/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data/

the Sanders campaign appears to have obtained files with lists of voters that the Clinton campaign had cultivated in 10 early states including Iowa and New Hampshire.

Beyond simply reviewing the data, the logs show the Sanders staffers took deliberate steps to harvest and store the information. According to the logs, the Sanders staff created from scratch no fewer than 24 lists—consisting entirely of data pulled down from the Clinton campaign’s database—and saved them to their personal folders.

What logs? Logs that the DNC or Hillary campaign made up? Because the vendor said no download of voter information took place.

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The drums begin to beat for an independent run.

Good. It needs to be an option if the DNC doesn't show Bernie some basic respect immediately. Trump threatened to go 3rd party for far less than this.

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The drums begin to beat for an independent run.

Good. It needs to be an option if the DNC doesn't show Bernie some basic respect immediately. Trump threatened to go 3rd party for far less than this.

Grow up. This is the vendor. He's never been a Democrat. He wanted to primary Obama. He's suing his own party.

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LOL, your 3rd and 5th sentences contradict each other. Make up your damn mind.

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Yeah, I don't even care about this anymore. His staff stole data and he's a martyr or whatever. Ethics mean nothing anymore.

The drums begin to beat for an independent run.

Good. It needs to be an option if the DNC doesn't show Bernie some basic respect immediately. Trump threatened to go 3rd party for far less than this.

Actually Trump threatened to go third party for more than this. Among others, they were threatening to take Trump's nomination away from him if he were to enter a brokered convention with the most delegates and popular votes.

A brokered convention is some crazy hypothetical. What the DNC did to Bernie is most definitely not a hypothetical.

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Yeah, I don't even care about this anymore. His staff stole data and he's a martyr or whatever. Ethics mean nothing anymore.

The drums begin to beat for an independent run.

Good. It needs to be an option if the DNC doesn't show Bernie some basic respect immediately. Trump threatened to go 3rd party for far less than this.

Actually Trump threatened to go third party for more than this. Among others, they were threatening to take Trump's nomination away from him if he were to enter a brokered convention with the most delegates and popular votes.

A brokered convention is some crazy hypothetical. What the DNC did to Bernie is most definitely not a hypothetical.

What the Sanders campaign stole from the Clinton campaign, which took millions of dollars and thousands of volunteer hours to compile, is also definitely not a hypothetical. It happened.

Bernie didn't steal Hillary's data. The DNC just stole Bernie's data, though.

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Yeah, I don't even care about this anymore. His staff stole data and he's a martyr or whatever. Ethics mean nothing anymore.

The drums begin to beat for an independent run.

Good. It needs to be an option if the DNC doesn't show Bernie some basic respect immediately. Trump threatened to go 3rd party for far less than this.

Actually Trump threatened to go third party for more than this. Among others, they were threatening to take Trump's nomination away from him if he were to enter a brokered convention with the most delegates and popular votes.

A brokered convention is some crazy hypothetical. What the DNC did to Bernie is most definitely not a hypothetical.

This is the last time I'm going to respond to you, since you are not reasonable, unlike Adam.  His campaign stole vital data about potential voters in 10 early states.  This issue had not come up before on this software.  Senior staff of his campaign were doing  this.  The DNC has ever right to suspend being able to use this for a bit and only for a bit.   Sanders, his campaign staff, and some of his supporters are acting as if they are the victims, when they were the perpetrators of this action.  It doesn't matter if it was glitch, he still abused it.  If this was the federal government, he would be under indictment right now.  He is lucky this doesn't violate federal law.  Admit he was in the wrong and work with the DNC to move past this.  If not, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

The DNC was already known to be in Hillary's camp. This story shouldn't have been released to the media. The Bernie campaign already fired the person involved. And yet they are still locked out of their own data and the DNC chair went on TV to bash Bernie. He damn straight is the victim here. Bernie didn't do anything wrong, it's not like he downloaded top secret classified information onto his own server. You unreasonable Hillary partisans will split this party in two.

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The lawsuit says the 2008 Hillary campaign gained confidential information from a similar bug. But I guess no one felt like using that against them.

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Yeah, I don't even care about this anymore. His staff stole data and he's a martyr or whatever. Ethics mean nothing anymore.

The drums begin to beat for an independent run.

Good. It needs to be an option if the DNC doesn't show Bernie some basic respect immediately. Trump threatened to go 3rd party for far less than this.

Actually Trump threatened to go third party for more than this. Among others, they were threatening to take Trump's nomination away from him if he were to enter a brokered convention with the most delegates and popular votes.

A brokered convention is some crazy hypothetical. What the DNC did to Bernie is most definitely not a hypothetical.

What the Sanders campaign stole from the Clinton campaign, which took millions of dollars and thousands of volunteer hours to compile, is also definitely not a hypothetical. It happened.

Bernie didn't steal Hillary's data. The DNC just stole Bernie's data, though.

With all due respect, you are not being realistic at all. It is evident know that his staff saved voter data from the Clinton campaign, which is an ethical breach. No one stole anything from Bernie, his campaign got locked out because of underhanded staffers.

The said staffer was fired and the Bernie campaign is locked out of their own data. The Hillary campaign.

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You know what screw it, I am going to respond.
 First on the press getting the story.  This is a race for president.  Everything that happens is game in this race.  Anything that the candidates do during the race or their campaigns do is game.
Second, of course he was fired, but others did this as well, and are they fired no. 
Third, DWS is a horrible person, no one likes her.  Hillary would probably like it if she had not supported her.
Fourth, it is the Bernie supporter talking about splitting the party in two with a independent run.  Every Clinton supporter I know before today would be happy to have voted for him.

But of course your just going to ignore reasonable argument, and ignore mounting evidence and continue to bash Clinton no matter what.

The staffer was fired. And the Bernie campaign said there were issues months ago but didn't go running to the press then. This story was leaked by some combination of the DNC or Hillary campaign even though it would be very divisive for the party. It's very stupid if you're trying to win a general election. Similar incidents have happened in the past, but the Bernie campaign doesn't put sh**t like this in the media.

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The lawsuit says the 2008 Hillary campaign gained confidential information from a similar bug. But I guess no one felt like using that against them.

Prove it, then I will believe you.

It's in the lawsuit. I don't think anyone ran to the media, so I don't know if more information is publicly available.

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The lawsuit says the 2008 Hillary campaign gained confidential information from a similar bug. But I guess no one felt like using that against them.

Prove it, then I will believe you.

It's in the lawsuit. I don't think anyone ran to the media, so I don't know if more information is publicly available.

No, prove she used stolen information.  I do believe it's in the suit, but don't believe they have any proof at all.

All I see is items 23, 32, and 52 here.

http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001

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How does one equivocate "resulting in the unintentional transmission" with that these 4 users did?

4 accounts, but only 2 users.

It's OK jfern will be around predicting Hillary's impending loss, much like he did with his sig leading up to Obama's landslide defeat in 2012.

It didn't say he'd be defeated in a landslide, and I think that's more then cancelled out when I said in 2006 that the 2008 election would have Obama beat McCain.

Berniebots are the worst, at least the Paulbots were entertaining. Bernie campaign stole data and broke the rules.

Fess up and move on.

The Hillary campaign wasn't punished when they got access to confidential data.

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Welp. Sanders wanted some news coverage. Looks like he got it.

Might as well go out in a blaze of glory anyway. Makes it more fun.

He had the 1 million member DFA, a 700,000 member union, and hit 2 million donations all in the 24 hours before this broke. The timing is suspicious, and not in a way that helps Bernie.

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Well tomorrow is bound to have the most entertaining debate for the Democrats this cycle.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/clintons-offense-will-be-personal-216962?cmpid=sf

Bad idea. She already has the nomination won. She's just going to turn Sanders people off from her for good if she goes at him hard over this.

I was already turned off from her for good. But I was intending on voting Democrat in other races. I'm starting to get very turned off from the entire party.

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It's a mistake for Sanders not to have come out today and personally repudiated those involved and fired ALL of those involved. He can't give Clinton any kind of opening to use at the debate.  His whole brand is based on him being Mr. pure.

The user of 3 of the 4 accounts was fired yesterday.

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Yeah, I don't see her engaging on it, but politicos will write think pieces.

Hillary: "Let me say this. Let me say something that may not be great politics, but I think the Senator is right. And that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about the DNC's damn software breach!"

Honestly, she should probably say something along those lines.

Her campaign already made political hay of this.

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Welp, this is an overall depressing development. Going forward, the main goal of the Clinton campaign for the rest of the primary season should be to win over as many Sanders supporters as possible, and not to turn off too many of them. She doesn't need to attack; the nomination is hers and Sanders attacks will only serve to turn away would-be general election voters. For Sanders, his goal should be to run a clean issue based campaign for the next few months (until around March/April or so), and then fully and wholeheartedly endorse Clinton for President against Republican nominee Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Other.

There is no way I see Clinton winning the presidency. She is already a disliked candidate stuff like this just makes look really bad. This will be blamed on Hillary. I already see people saying they will just vote 3rd party.

Exactly, if she wanted Bernie supporters in the general election, she could have called today for the DNC to reinstate the Bernie campaign's access to their files. She didn't. She is dead to a lot of Bernie supporters now.

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Welp, this is an overall depressing development. Going forward, the main goal of the Clinton campaign for the rest of the primary season should be to win over as many Sanders supporters as possible, and not to turn off too many of them. She doesn't need to attack; the nomination is hers and Sanders attacks will only serve to turn away would-be general election voters. For Sanders, his goal should be to run a clean issue based campaign for the next few months (until around March/April or so), and then fully and wholeheartedly endorse Clinton for President against Republican nominee Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Other.

There is no way I see Clinton winning the presidency. She is already a disliked candidate stuff like this just makes look really bad. This will be blamed on Hillary. I already see people saying they will just vote 3rd party.

Exactly, if she wanted Bernie supporters in the general election, she could have called today for the DNC to reinstate the Bernie campaign's access to their files. She didn't. She is dead to a lot of Bernie supporters now.

But she did call for a reinstatement of his files.

Where?

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Welp, this is an overall depressing development. Going forward, the main goal of the Clinton campaign for the rest of the primary season should be to win over as many Sanders supporters as possible, and not to turn off too many of them. She doesn't need to attack; the nomination is hers and Sanders attacks will only serve to turn away would-be general election voters. For Sanders, his goal should be to run a clean issue based campaign for the next few months (until around March/April or so), and then fully and wholeheartedly endorse Clinton for President against Republican nominee Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Other.

There is no way I see Clinton winning the presidency. She is already a disliked candidate stuff like this just makes look really bad. This will be blamed on Hillary. I already see people saying they will just vote 3rd party.

It's strange how Hillary is even getting any blame for this, is it not? She's in no way involved. In fact, it was her own data that was stolen! There's some serious Clinton Derangement Syndrome and group think going on.

Well, the NGP VAN is run by one ex-Clinton staffer, and was founded by a different ex-Clinton staffer. Add to that, that the Sanders campaign had apparently been complaining about the lack of security on their own data for months and were getting ignored and it's not hard to see where the anti-Clinton sentiment comes from, correctly or not.

And add to it that DWS was already pulling a lot of sh**t like a crappy debate schedule to benefit Hillary. The DNC has proven themselves to be 100% Hillary hacks.

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So the contract seems pretty clear that 10 days notice must be given before it's terminated, and that time can be used to remedy any problem. The Bernie campaign is claiming damages of over $600k a day.

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Welp, this is an overall depressing development. Going forward, the main goal of the Clinton campaign for the rest of the primary season should be to win over as many Sanders supporters as possible, and not to turn off too many of them. She doesn't need to attack; the nomination is hers and Sanders attacks will only serve to turn away would-be general election voters. For Sanders, his goal should be to run a clean issue based campaign for the next few months (until around March/April or so), and then fully and wholeheartedly endorse Clinton for President against Republican nominee Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Other.

There is no way I see Clinton winning the presidency. She is already a disliked candidate stuff like this just makes look really bad. This will be blamed on Hillary. I already see people saying they will just vote 3rd party.

Exactly, if she wanted Bernie supporters in the general election, she could have called today for the DNC to reinstate the Bernie campaign's access to their files. She didn't. She is dead to a lot of Bernie supporters now.

But she did call for a reinstatement of his files.

Where?

In her press release today.

I didn't see it

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So the contract seems pretty clear that 10 days notice must be given before it's terminated, and that time can be used to remedy any problem. The Bernie campaign is claiming damages of over $600k a day.

Im sure the contract also says something about not accessing other campaigns data. Since the Sanders campaign broke the contract first, im not sure if they have legal recourse here.

The Hillary campaign accessed confidential information in the past without punishment. I see nothing in the contract about that anyways. And there is supposed to be a 10 day notice before it terminates.

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Welp, this is an overall depressing development. Going forward, the main goal of the Clinton campaign for the rest of the primary season should be to win over as many Sanders supporters as possible, and not to turn off too many of them. She doesn't need to attack; the nomination is hers and Sanders attacks will only serve to turn away would-be general election voters. For Sanders, his goal should be to run a clean issue based campaign for the next few months (until around March/April or so), and then fully and wholeheartedly endorse Clinton for President against Republican nominee Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Other.

There is no way I see Clinton winning the presidency. She is already a disliked candidate stuff like this just makes look really bad. This will be blamed on Hillary. I already see people saying they will just vote 3rd party.

Exactly, if she wanted Bernie supporters in the general election, she could have called today for the DNC to reinstate the Bernie campaign's access to their files. She didn't. She is dead to a lot of Bernie supporters now.

But she did call for a reinstatement of his files.

Where?

In her press release today.

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a.) Clinton wants Sanders' access to his data restored.
b.) Clinton wants an independent investigation into the Sanders campaigns actions.

Thank you, I was having a hard time finding it.

Why do they call on the court and not the DNC to resolve this? Very odd.

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The Hillary campaign accessed confidential information in the past without punishment. I see nothing in the contract about that anyways. And there is supposed to be a 10 day notice before it terminates.

That's a boldfaced lie.

Which part?

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Im gonna ignore the first part because you have no proof.

And do you have a link to the contract?

It's in the lawsuit.
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000151-b72f-d1ae-add5-f76f14db0001

The first statement. What you are referring to is an unsubstantiated claim in the legal filing that says Clinton's campaign was inadvertently transferred data it was not supposed to have. That is not the same as deliberately stealing data from another campaign, which is what occurred here.

Well obviously it would be a lot more substantiated if someone had run to the media at the time about it.

jfern, why is the Sanders campaign unable to give the DNC and everyone else paying attention a detailed and honest description of what happened? They've changed the story so much over the course of the day. Every time they were caught lying, they changed the story a little bit. They even tried to shift the blame on Clinton for accessing their files, a claim you're still parroting, but when pressed on it, Weaver had no evidence. If that will be their argument in court then they will surely lose. Why have they been lying so much? What are they trying so hard to cover up?

If those are right and the vendor is wrong, one staffer searched for and accessed files he wasn't supposed on 3 accounts and was fired. I think the other staffer just did 1 search.