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Question: Who is more friendly to Islam?
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Bush
 
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the average leftist
 
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Citizen James
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« on: September 08, 2005, 11:13:37 PM »

Bush is pro-human.  Bush supports Muslims who agree with democracy and human rights.

The left is simply for any revolutionary movement that opposes democracy, human rights, and western civilization.

Yanno, it always amazes me how someone can say something so intelegent and sensible, then turn around in the next line and say something completely brain dead.

I absolutely agree with your first paragraph.   I think many Dems also support Muslims who agree with democracy and human rights.

The difference lies in beliefs as to how to encourage democracy, human rights, and western values.

The left/right spectrum is fairly useless in this regard, as opinions of hardcore conservatives range from the  isolationism of many paleoconservatives (take care of our own and let the other nations work things out for themselves), to the nearly Maoist attitude of neoconservatives (political power comes out of the barrel of a gun.)

Now the closest thing I could see to a 'far left' position would be the whole 'bomb them with butter' idea.   Something of a hippy fantasy, the idea there is that if we give them the resources they need to survive, and teach them about democracy, they'll eventually come around.  Not quite as insane as 'they'll love us if we kill enough of them', and nowhere near as insane as the hintings of genocide that some of the folks at the more authoritarian end of the spectrum keep hinting at, but not really practical or effective either.

Pragmatists, or 'moderates' of a variety of stripes tend to focus on a variety of methods - using both carrot and stick as needed to encourage and discourage various developments.  Set up a system of free elections and get better trade deals.  Turn a blind eye to terrorists training in your wilderness and we might toss over a cruise missile or two on your facilities after we introduce the terror trainees to our very efficent special forces troops (or just let them have a few extra missiles too).
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