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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 19, 2013, 11:43:15 PM »

Nay
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2013, 03:06:23 PM »

Once again, I'd just like to say to Assemblyman JCL and Assemblyman Oldiesfreak1854 that voting against a veto-override is essentially an acknowledgement that you don't consider an abortion to be the same as murdering a newborn.  Heck, this bill doesn't even ban all abortions, so I'm a bit surprised to see folks like Assemblyman JCL essentially acknowledging there is no principle to stand on here.  As I said in another thread, if I believed abortion was the same as murdering a newborn (and I don't, ftr), I'd be appalled at the very idea that what this bill describes was an acceptable punishment.  I said it before and I'll say it again, if Assemblyman Oldiesfreak1854 and especially Assemblyman JCL (whose brand is standing on principle when it comes to social issues) then I don't see how either can oppose a veto override.  If they vote against a veto override, they're essentially saying "abortion is the same as murdering a newborn, but we should prosecute it like it isn't even a violent crime, let alone murder."  Honestly, anything less than Assemblyman JCL's recently defeated abortion bill is essentially an admission by its supporters that abortion is both different and far less of a crime than murdering a newborn baby.

The penalty I want assesed is one impossible in this game if you really wanna get down to it.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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United States


« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2013, 05:09:21 PM »

Once again, I'd just like to say to Assemblyman JCL and Assemblyman Oldiesfreak1854 that voting against a veto-override is essentially an acknowledgement that you don't consider an abortion to be the same as murdering a newborn.  Heck, this bill doesn't even ban all abortions, so I'm a bit surprised to see folks like Assemblyman JCL essentially acknowledging there is no principle to stand on here.  As I said in another thread, if I believed abortion was the same as murdering a newborn (and I don't, ftr), I'd be appalled at the very idea that what this bill describes was an acceptable punishment.  I said it before and I'll say it again, if Assemblyman Oldiesfreak1854 and especially Assemblyman JCL (whose brand is standing on principle when it comes to social issues) then I don't see how either can oppose a veto override.  If they vote against a veto override, they're essentially saying "abortion is the same as murdering a newborn, but we should prosecute it like it isn't even a violent crime, let alone murder."  Honestly, anything less than Assemblyman JCL's recently defeated abortion bill is essentially an admission by its supporters that abortion is both different and far less of a crime than murdering a newborn baby.

The penalty I want assesed is one impossible in this game if you really wanna get down to it.

But why settle for this if you truly believe abortion is the same as murdering a newborn?  Surely, you could keep fighting for the penalty you believe to be appropriate rather than settling for this.

While I may support the death penalty for unrepentant murders, the Atlasian Constitution has banned it. I was trying to work within the framework of Atlasian Law.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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United States


« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2013, 05:11:08 PM »

I was trying to get it passed.  I knew it would be controversial if we prosecuted it like a violent crime, and I thought that was a decent compromise.  But people think it's extreme anyway.  I just don't get it.

It baffles me too.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 05:31:21 PM »

Nay
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