13,000 teens complete Hamas training camps to emulate ‘suicide martyrs’

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The totalitarian Zionazis are just oppressing the innocent and peace-loving Palestinians, of course.

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You reap what you sow. No one should be surprised by this, seeing as these are teens who have spent their entire lives in the world's largest outdoor prison.

Generally speaking, the only people who sow and reap are the ordinary people.

Israel is not Lord Voldemort - they cannot cast the Imperius curse on these people. They have a choice on how to respond and it's a pity they keep choosing the wrong response.

How would you respond to a strip of land run by an insane death cult that trains its citizens to commit mass murder-suicide and lobs rockets at Israeli civilians?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The important thing I got out of this thread is that's Snowstalker's apparently entered some kind of bizarre right-wing Israel-supporting phase.

There's plenty to dislike about Israel (Netanyahu's an unambiguous dick, the obviously illegal West Bank settlements, the probably disproportionate response to attacks), but unlike many of my fellow leftists I see absolutely no reason why the Palestinians are more deserving of sympathy; it's not like it would be a liberal democracy that tolerates gays like Israel is if/when the occupation ends. Peace will only come from rejecting the ultrareligious, bloodthirsty reactionaries on both sides, Hamas included.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

Ugh...and this is why some of my older aunts and uncles wistfully lament about how even if an independent Palestine happened in their lifetimes they'd never want to live in it because it would be so "uncivilized."

Of course, Hamas exists in part because there is a vacuum that allows it to. Who else would you like the people of Gaza to vote for?

Whoever doesn't create camps to train teenage boys to commit murder-suicide and doesn't want to murder every Jew in the Levant?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

This is by far your weirdest phase yet, Snowstalker. I suppose when you start talking about people "worshipping a pedophile" or whatever it's inevitable but still...

Phase? I've always had a "pox on both houses" mentality in regards to this issue, but get forced against whatever side seems to be stronger on Atlas at the time/in the particular topic.