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« on: March 03, 2020, 07:13:13 PM »

I guess carpetbombing the airwaves and sending likely Democratic voters multiple pieces of campaign literature in the mail per day is turning out not to endear Bloomberg to as many voters as was hoped. Sad!
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2020, 07:14:53 PM »


Rose Twitter? Anti-idpol to the point of being straight-up racist and/or sexist? Say it ain't so!
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2020, 07:17:58 PM »

Veeeeeery early returns, but Bloomberg is underperforming substantially so far in VA. Excellent news for Biden.

And for America.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 07:31:45 PM »

Is Arlington actually more ALATT/Bernie-friendly than the rest of NOVA, or is NSV just being NSV?
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2020, 07:40:11 PM »

Is Arlington actually more ALATT/Bernie-friendly than the rest of NOVA, or is NSV just being NSV?

Sounds like a question from someone who is literally in shock that Bernie is a terrible fit for Virginia

I'm not in shock about or surprised by that at all; I'm watching Jeopardy and enjoying my evening. But thanks, the fact that this was your response to a simple question tells me all I need to know about your #analysis.
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2020, 07:45:46 PM »


As opposed to...?
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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2020, 07:54:23 PM »

There are plenty of Latinos in the South. Just not as many as out West.
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2020, 07:54:40 PM »


ayy lmao
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2020, 08:05:53 PM »

I don't understand how Bernie is doing so bad with African-Americans.

Less that Bernie is doing uniquely bad and more that Biden is doing uniquely great.
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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2020, 08:15:46 PM »

It'd be a big surprise if Biden'd be competitive in Massachussets.

I've been thinking about it and yeah, I guess this should have been expected. With Butti and Klob out and the Lib vote split Biden doing respectably there makes sense.

Biden should have been competitive in MA from the beginning lots of working class white moderate Democrats iirc, not like rust belt working class (other than like Lowell) along with technocrats which seem to vibe between him and Warren.

Yeah, Massachusetts's national reputation as some sort of super progressive nice woke SJW state regularly mystifies people who actually live here.
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2020, 08:24:09 PM »

I don't understand how Bernie is doing so bad with African-Americans.

Black people don't vibe with Bernie's message that much......
They don't believe what Bernie is selling. Black people know d**n well there is not going to be any free college and healthcare.
Black people 'know' that America can't achieve what every other comparable nation has?

The worldwide secular trend is away from social democratic cradle-to-grave policies rather than towards them. The style of leftism that Bernie represents peaked , for better or for worse, at some point in the early 1970s. The twenty-first-century """"center-left"""" is for well-meaning doofuses like your typical red avatar at best and parasitic ghouls like Non Swing Voter at worst.
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2020, 08:41:35 PM »

I definitely do think that nice Smiley moderate Smiley affluent Smiley suburban Smiley whites Smiley are converging on Biden mostly to stop the DANGEROUS RADICAL COMMUNIST VENEZUELA VENEZUELA VENEZUELA with his eeeeeeevil social democratic education and welfare policies, but as for black voters, it's clear that the guy really does resonate with them on his own terms. And that is important for turnout in places like Detroit and Atlanta in the general.
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2020, 08:43:26 PM »

Why does it look like Biden is winning Massachusetts?

Because Massachusetts is not a particularly progressive state.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2020, 08:49:13 PM »

Why does it look like Biden is winning Massachusetts?

Because Massachusetts is not a particularly progressive state.

Thats disingenuous and you know it.

No. It’s the truth. Massachusetts is not a national leader on progressive policy on anything other than same-sex marriage almost twenty years ago. We love moderate or pseudo-moderate Republican Governors beyond all reason and we have still have deeply entrenched power networks of moderate Irish Catholic Democrats controlling local government in much of the eastern part of the state. The "more progressive" or "most progressive" candidate in a Democratic primary hasn't won the state since 1980. Massachusetts is a very Democratic state but is far from a uniquely progressive one.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2020, 09:00:37 PM »

Why does it look like Biden is winning Massachusetts?

Because Massachusetts is not a particularly progressive state.

Thats disingenuous and you know it.

No. It’s the truth. Massachusetts is not a national leader on progressive policy on anything other than same-sex marriage almost twenty years ago. We love moderate or pseudo-moderate Republican Governors beyond all reason and we have still have deeply entrenched power networks of moderate Irish Catholic Democrats controlling local government in much of the eastern part of the state. The "more progressive" or "most progressive" candidate in a Democratic primary hasn't won the state since 1980. Massachusetts is a very Democratic state but is far from a uniquely progressive one.

Surely Teddy won it in 1980

Yeah, and McGovern did in 1972. But not since.
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2020, 10:09:41 PM »

James Carville is giddy on MSNBC right now

Well yeah, the commie is getting crushed.

Oh come on, you're a smart guy, blackraisin. Surely you're not that much of an extreme-right hack.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2020, 10:27:57 PM »

Biden's actually sounding surprisingly #populist Purple heart. He might actually be pivoting to the left for the general if this is at all representative of the way he'll campaign against Trump.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2020, 10:44:37 PM »

His opinion doesn't reflect those of all of us Biden supporters. In the end, we're all dedicated to defeating Donald Trump, and if Bernie was nominated most of us (including me) would back him unequivocally. Hopefully, y'all will do the same. Unlike the Trumpist GOP, we have room for ideological differentiation.

I'm staunchly anti-Biden but I hardly think Grassroots should even be validated by being counted as a Biden supporter in how he acts given he's a Trumpist and admitted nationalist.

Hey, the Democrats put country (nationalism) over marxism (internationalism) tonight. Plenty of Democrats believe its smart to prioritize our country first.

...okay, maybe you really are that much of a brain-dead hack.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2020, 10:50:03 PM »

Quote from:  link=topic=362568.msg7216808#msg7216808 date=1583293175 uid=16104
Hey Atlas progressives, as an uncompromising neoliberal and establishment shill, do not lose all hope. Tonight has shown that America has overwhelmingly rejected Bernie Sanders as a human nobody likes, and that Ameroca is not willing to accept uncompromising, divisive, socialist radicals woth a savior mentality. Next time instead of going for a purist star, go for a progressive (not socialist) workhorse with strong policy as well as strong rhetoric. There are plenty of choices. But you will lose if you go as left as Sanders (focus on builind a winning coalition around a few key issues) and embrace the unifying Buttigeig approach to politics instead of the losing Sanders strategy. Best wishes, even though I hope you keep losing.

You're just proving my point. In your ideal Democratic Party, there are no progressives.

Watch Biden's speech that he just gave. He's a progressive bona fide. And has been for 40 years. He's just not a revolutionary.

Yeah, I actually liked the message Biden delivered tonight a lot and feel pretty okay about voting for him in the general now, although obviously I'm a good bit more pointedly leftist than he is. I'm just not sure he'll be an effective messenger for the next eight months, mostly because he wasn't an effective messenger until the last two weeks.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2020, 12:28:34 AM »

lmao at Bloomberg winning the counties that Napa Valley and Aspen are in. It's exactly where he should be winning!
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