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Author Topic: Is there a third option?  (Read 689 times)
Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: December 15, 2016, 07:55:01 PM »
« edited: December 15, 2016, 08:01:13 PM by Winds for the spices and stars for the gold »

I'm making this a poll because I want to force people to give some kind of straight answer to this. I'm also posing this question on my Facebook.

A lot of political and cultural disputes these days seem to come down to people who think that the way forward is essentially a continuation or even extension of the same global power structures that have held sway for the past thirty-odd years and people who think that the way forward is some sort of retread of nineteenth-century right-Romantic notions of nation (if we're lucky) or blood and soil (if we're not). People in the former camp are fans of politicians such as New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and people in the latter camp (in this country) for the most part voted for 2016 Presidential popular vote runner-up Donald Trump. Both of these camps more or less correctly accuse the other of living in 'a bubble', but nobody seems to concede that both camps might have bubbles, still less that each camp's bubble may be at least partially of the other camp's own construction.

What I'm asking is whether there's a third option--whether there's some way to build a future that isn't either the continued worldwide unchallenged hegemony of the financial services industry (and certain other sectors success in which similarly requires specialized education and willingness and ability to live in one of a few ultra-high-CPI, ultra-socially-liberal urban areas, like tech and the media and I guess maybe also some reasonably-remunerative 'creative' industries such as fashion), or the complete abdication of (using this word with tongue halfway into cheek but not entirely) civilized norms in favor of a morass of right-wing populism, neo-Poujadism, and endless right-Promethean extraction-industry rapacity.

Ross Douthat retweeted some risible list of 'global thinkers who mattered this year' and suggested his own list, which was almost entirely figures of the illiberal right of whom I'm sure Douthat doesn't really approve, conservative as he is (I suppose one could consider the late Christopher Lasch a figure of the left, but I doubt most American liberals would want to). I'd add a few non-alt-reich figures to Douthat's list, such as the restless and unconquered spirits of Karl Marx and Pope Leo XIII, but talking about figures like them as relevant to our days is liable to get you laughed off the stage by both the Trumpists and the Cuomoists.
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