The Seriously? Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V

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The term "whore" does not denote a specific sex. There are both male and female whores. To preface my claim hereafter, I do not condemn prostitution; it is a legitimate practice. I believe the surrogate used the term "whore" to describe how Clinton has sold out to corporations in exchange for power. Sometimes strong words must be used to get the point across. Could the surrogate have set it up a bit better? Yes.

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I'm not offended; it's just an aggressively doltish post--in its wording, its presuppositions, its apparent belief that having a moral problem with prostitution is more offensive and more to be disclaimed than calling a woman a whore...

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I live in a latino neighborhood, married into a latino family, and my clients at work are predominantly latino.

Trump is more than toxic. He's literally the devil here. Just saying his name puts a sour look on people's faces.

I have not, yet, met a Mexican who merely dislikes Trump. It is universally ranging between "dead scared" and "hate passionately". I do not think most Anglos realize just how toxic Trump is at this point.

I think that is WHY we love Trump. Mexico and everything about it has become just as toxic to many Americans.

I'm normally a pacifist in international affairs, but I'd be okay with making an exception for Mexico.

Are you suggesting war with Mexico?

The most important foreign policy priority for the US must be to maintain peace with its neighbors. The US and Mexico don't always have to agree, but there is no good reason to be hostile towards Mexico.

No, but aggressive negotiations are fine for me. Like "pay for the wall or we cut off remittances."

I'm normally against such hard-nosed dealing in most situations, but Mexico is run by the same corrupt oligarchs that have run their system for the past century - and they are milking us dry. From NAFTA to the Rubin-bailout to the stuff they pull with immigration today. And both illegals and their entire political culture are complicit in this, totally destroying the societies they flood.

I mean, he's not wrong about corruption in the Mexican system, and there are in fact a few good reasons to be concerned with mass undocumented immigration's effects on things like American wages, but claiming that Mexican immigrants are 'totally destroying' American society is ridiculous and racist.

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Our resident Emily Dickinson-hating alt-right creep strikes again!

The most brilliant, cerebral Christian I know - a guy who studied everything about the ancient theological debates and scholastic-medieval philosophers and really just knows everything about the Church - is an ex-Catholic who left because of Francis's Muslim-shilling.

...yikes. What is he now?

Obviously some form of Eastern Orthodox - the non-cucked version of Catholicism.

My breaking point with Catholicism came when Francis compounded that with his blatant illegal & PP shilling. I am sympathetic to evangelicals who call the Pope the anti-Christ, but at the end of the day, I think I'm done with organized Christianity now.

Plus, in a world where Trump fails, we might as well convert to Islam when that window of opportunity is still open.

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I think most of the posters ARE working-class whites.

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Honestly not important. Asians are demographically moribund and not likely to become electorally relevant anytime soon.

Hispanic preferences might worry the GOP, but there's a lot of factors that are going to play into that (like assimilation) - and it's not clear that Trump will do worse than Romney.

Ok

It's really hard to express how badly Romney did with Hispanic voters. The vast majority of the small minority of Hispanics who stuck around to vote for Mitt Romney strongly strongly detest illegal immigration.

Hell, Romney probably lost many Hispanics who hated illegal immigration, because Obama didn't go totally pro-illegal until his 2nd term.

Wouldn't be surprised if Trump did BETTER than Romney just by consolidating the minority of Hispanic voters who hate illegal immigration.

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Context:

He might crack 70% in West Virginia if he did this.

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^You posted in the wrong thread I think. Here's a better one.

If he endorses pro-abortion Johnson, I would lose a ton of respect for him.

Pro-choice != pro-abortion

Donald Trump is also pro-choice. Pro-lifers' best choice is probably Johnson, who at least doesn't want federal funding for abortion.

Trump says he is pro-life, so I will vote for him and respect anyone who does.  Anyone who supports abortion at all is guilty of murder themselves and should never receive my vote or the votes of any true conservative.  If Trump announces that he is pro-choice, Mike Smith or some other protest candidate has my vote.  Anyone who votes for Clinton or Johnson is an accomplice in 3000 murders every day and deserves to go to jail.

The idea that West Virginia voters are motivated by racism is overly simplistic, but arguable. The idea that they are so motivated by racism that voters not currently swayed by Trump's dog-whistling would be swayed if he explicitly called himself a racist is laughable. I suspect laughs are exactly what it's meant to provoke, so perhaps you're right that it should be in that thread instead.

The post you submitted is also really bad, yeah.

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^You posted in the wrong thread I think. Here's a better one.

If he endorses pro-abortion Johnson, I would lose a ton of respect for him.

Pro-choice != pro-abortion

Donald Trump is also pro-choice. Pro-lifers' best choice is probably Johnson, who at least doesn't want federal funding for abortion.

Trump says he is pro-life, so I will vote for him and respect anyone who does.  Anyone who supports abortion at all is guilty of murder themselves and should never receive my vote or the votes of any true conservative.  If Trump announces that he is pro-choice, Mike Smith or some other protest candidate has my vote.  Anyone who votes for Clinton or Johnson is an accomplice in 3000 murders every day and deserves to go to jail.

The idea that West Virginia voters are motivated by racism is overly simplistic, but arguable. The idea that they are so motivated by racism that voters not currently swayed by Trump's dog-whistling would be swayed if he explicitly called himself a racist is laughable. I suspect laughs are exactly what it's meant to provoke, so perhaps you're right that it should be in that thread instead.

The post you submitted is also really bad, yeah.

And it's quite hilarious which one you have more faux outrage over (particularly since mine was clearly tongue in cheek.)

Hurting the fees fees of the poor fragile West Virginians = worse than imprisoning millions for their political beliefs that a zygote is not identical to a human.

I have more hope for you to stop making asinine, supercilious 'jokes' than for ExtremeRepublican to stop saying things like that, so you're more worth criticizing.

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Context: BRTD posted this sad little bit of sophomoric religious bickering in the Good Post Gallery:

Hillary is a proud Methodist. 

That's the best anti-Hillary argument I've heard yet! Who's proud to be a Methodist

Beats being a Catholic.

(And, yes, BRTD putting it in the Gallery would still be a bad post if it were some other religion he and Santander didn't like.)

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I recognize that I've pissed away my ability to speak with any semblance of moral authority on this through my antics over the past two years, but I hope for purposes of this post that I've also made my opinion an object of interest to somebody. All that I really want to say right now is that I would hope that people of goodwill could perhaps agree to think of sex reassignment, for people capable of informed medical consent in general, as a form of harm reduction or palliative care, rather than twisting ourselves in knots and navel-gazing over what 'gender' (a concept so deliberately amorphously defined as to open the possibility that literally nobody thinks it means the same thing) really is, or agonizing over who's homophobic or who's transphobic or who's 'colonizing womanhoood' or who's 'the annihilation of man'. We don't have to all have the same revanchist interpretations of Genesis 1.28 or postmodernist interpretations of the life sciences in order to live civilly together and come to compromises that piss us off and please nobody and make us die a little inside but grin and bear it because that's what decent people living in a society do. If my entire small town as a child could agree not to talk about Mr. Bialczak's whereabouts after his third hospitalization, then we as a people can be decent to one another about the [Inks]ing Bathroom Question, for goodness' sake.

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I think Madeline, as usual, sums up this "issue" well.

It's Nathan, again, at this point, which is part of why I'm concerned about not being fairly able to say much about it.

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I would think this describes my attitude toward social issues, but I am not sure if questioning such a fundamental position bars me from being a true Scotsman.

Depends on how you define social conservative.  I'm pro-choice and I consider myself socially conservative.  I think there should be at least two categories of social conservative a mean one and a nice one.  The nice ones leave other people alone as long as those people leave them alone.  The mean ones want to run everyone's lives.

I don't like abortion but I realize clamping down on it does more harm than good.  I would much rather have good sex ed and free contraception.  There is nothing "conservative" about lying to teenagers and restricting their access to contraception.

Honestly we would have a much calmer well ordered society if better sex ed and free contraception was available.  I simply don't see how having a bunch of broke uneducated people spitting out babies in tumultuous relationships makes society more "conservative".

"Nice social conservatives only believe in the government controlling 95% of social issues."

I don't think the pat 'libertarian/authoritarian' axis maps as well to 'social liberal/conservative' as a lot of commentators and two-dimensional political quizzes seem to think it does.

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Poor people becoming a majority is a bad thing. If non-Whites were becoming a majority in a vacuum, that in itself wouldn't be a problem. The reason they are taking over though is because they are caught in a cycle of being poor and having lots of children. The end result is the United States becoming a third world nation. It's funny to see someone from NYC say that a minority majority hasn't led to economic disaster, I guess just because he lives in a Manhattan bubble. Half the jobs can't afford to pay minimum wage here. Milk is $5 a gallon. Housing is affordable only if you are a millionaire, on government assistance, or have made a conscious decision never to have children and always have roommates. NYC seriously looks like Dubai with a slightly better human rights record.

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Muh satire is not a magic wand that automatically excuses everything horrible thing you say or do.

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The greatest baseball team in American history.

They are hated because "New York" is a codeword for all things "sinful" and "foreign", as Lee Harvey Cruz said in the primaries. The haters can pretend its about the Yankees having too much money but we all know what its really about.

The worst teams in baseball are the Red Sox (Pedro Martinez attacked Don Zimmer on the field) and the Atlanta Braves (John Rocker's infamous rant against NYC).

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Well, for me allowing abortion in case of rape is some modern sort of eugenics. Disgusting similarly to any male or female who is so degenerated to rape anyone.

...what the ?

While I don't think it's a winning rhetorical stance, a strong argument can be made that widespread availability of abortion leads to attitudes and outcomes associated with eugenics. But that's not what kataak is doing here. I don't know what kataak is doing here.

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If you're a Fortune 100 CEO, you're a very smart, hard-working, highly successful person. That, of course, doesn't mean that millions of other people aren't also all of those qualities, but if I were running for president, I would want the support of all 100 of them. You (should) always want the smart, successful people on your side.

Francis pls excommunicate

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Nothing about this is incorrect, it's just ludicrously snobbish, supercilious, and hateful:

Populations that are insular and homogeneous tend to be easily coerced into buying populist and bigoted campaigns.  People in ME-02 are probably concerned that their jobs will be stolen by refugees, which is charming, because it assumes that anybody would want to live there if they weren't already born there.

These people had their chance to prove that they knew better.  Instead, they re-elected Paul LePage.  The invisible hand of the free market will be guiding ME-02 with its entrepreneurial heroin dealers and blue collar job losses for years to come.

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Nothing about this is incorrect, it's just ludicrously snobbish, supercilious, and hateful:

Populations that are insular and homogeneous tend to be easily coerced into buying populist and bigoted campaigns.  People in ME-02 are probably concerned that their jobs will be stolen by refugees, which is charming, because it assumes that anybody would want to live there if they weren't already born there.

These people had their chance to prove that they knew better.  Instead, they re-elected Paul LePage.  The invisible hand of the free market will be guiding ME-02 with its entrepreneurial heroin dealers and blue collar job losses for years to come.

Wrong basket. This was the one that Hillary was saying we should sympathize with, not think to ourselves, "Well, f 'em, they're voting for Trump." This kind of elitism in the Democratic Party is why Republicans are gaining in new voter registration now. The Obama-Obama-Trump voters do exist and we can't just label them as racist idiots. We need to be at least as accepting of them as we are of McCain-Romney-Clinton voters or the rapists and criminals Mexican immigrants. If Clinton's "deplorables" gaffe had sounded like this instead of what it actually was, then I would have reconsidered my support. This and the one above it are bad signs for the Democratic Party in the future. They need to re-become what are supposed to be: a party of the people, not the party of whoever is supporting them. But they do have a G-WA avatar so that explains some of it.

This right here, very interesting. The party of the people, you say? I'm trying to provide the perspective of a type of person who is politically ignored. Until the Fight for $15, fast food workers had no representation, no champion, no nothing. It sure as hell wasn't Donald Trump who got behind it and fought for better working conditions.

Ignore me at your own peril, and continue to try to win the votes of the "disappearing white middle class." Or, you know, start taking poverty seriously.

Nice conversational judo there. Very well-executed. I'm not even mad; that was extremely well-done.

I like when well-off internet liberals who know literally nothing about living in any sort of life of struggle make the assumption that people in rural areas aren't voting Democrat because some other people on the internet said something mean about them.

Newsflash: They know exactly who they're voting for and why they're doing it - and people saying mean stuff about them on the internet is not why.

Of course, I expect them to continue ignoring people who actually associate and interact with them simply because "i read a book about them lol "

1. You know nothing about my life or about my background.
2. Don't you live in the biggest city in the country?

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With the Whitest, most economically egalitarian states gone, the remaining US would be even poorer and Browner. It would just make more swift this nation's inevitable decline into being a third world country where the vast majority of people live in slums.

Conversely, the gigantic infusion of relatively rich people into Canada (their population would increase by about a third) would probably help Canada avoid America's fate for at least another 50 years.

Jesus.

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Context should be self-evident:

It goes back to Isaac and Ishmael unfortunately.

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My posting this here shouldn't be taken to imply full agreement with the post it's responding to, but Jesus Christ what a vapid and cavalier attitude towards human relationships:

All divorce is horrible divorce.  But, no-fault divorce has created the idea in our culture that marriage doesn't have to be permanent.  This has led to less commitment on the part of spouses and the decline in family values.  We need to stop with this culture that accepts one-night stands, casual sex, and divorce without a valid reason!!

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It's time for you to grow up and leave your little fantasy world. To maintain a stable marriage in the 21st Century, people have to know if they're compatible with their partner sexually before making a long term commitment to them. Marriage shouldn't have to be permanent, and anyone who thinks so is a regressive nutcase stuck in the 19th Century. Women are not the property of their husbands, as much as you'd love for them to be. They should not be forced to stay in a marriage they don't want to be in any more. Period. Lastly, casual sex is a wonderful thing that should be encouraged, not suppressed. The world needs more sex, not less.