Men should be banned from

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

If "men" is meant in the "mankind" sense and you get rid of the last three words, then I'm all on board.

I'll amend my usual 'why do you hate representative democracy?' question.

Why do you hate civilization?

I would go along with this as long as women were banned from voting on issues relating to prostitution.

But women are the ones who actually are prostitutes, opebo-chan.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

If "men" is meant in the "mankind" sense and you get rid of the last three words, then I'm all on board.

I'll amend my usual 'why do you hate representative democracy?' question.

Why do you hate civilization?

I love civilization and hate the opposite of civilization, which is unprovoked force.

I agree. Which is why there are laws. To prevent human existence from being characterized by brute force.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

If "men" is meant in the "mankind" sense and you get rid of the last three words, then I'm all on board.

I'll amend my usual 'why do you hate representative democracy?' question.

Why do you hate civilization?

I love civilization and hate the opposite of civilization, which is unprovoked force.

I agree. Which is why there are laws. To prevent human existence from being characterized by brute force.

So you agree that there is no situation in which unprovoked force is appropriate?

Yes but I'm almost positive we would have very different definitions of both force and provocation.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

If "men" is meant in the "mankind" sense and you get rid of the last three words, then I'm all on board.

I'll amend my usual 'why do you hate representative democracy?' question.

Why do you hate civilization?

I love civilization and hate the opposite of civilization, which is unprovoked force.

I agree. Which is why there are laws. To prevent human existence from being characterized by brute force.

So you agree that there is no situation in which unprovoked force is appropriate?

Yes but I'm almost positive we would have very different definitions of both force and provocation.

Provocation: The use of force against another person.

Force: Threatening to cause or causing harm to another person, including bodily harm and/or confiscation/destruction of property.  (The second part is only for clarification, confiscation or destruction of a person's property obviously can only occur under the threat of bodily harm).

Hm. I suppose I have a some woolly conception of 'property' (or rather, I'm highly pessimistic about the usual ways in which large amounts of personal property are accumulated). I'd also add 'interrupting one's ability to lead a peaceful life/livelihood for one's personal gain beyond the same ability' to the definition of what constitutes 'force'.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I would go along with this as long as women were banned from voting on issues relating to prostitution.

lolwut

Obviously 'nice' females want to ban prostitution as it removes their leverage over men.  They should be disqualified from voting on the issue.

Does the fact that the actual prostitutes are also female have any relevance to your thinking on the subject?

Also, what's wrong with having one area, just one, in which women have 'leverage' over men rather than the other way around, anyway? (Not to say that I agree with you that banning prostitution inherently constitutes that.)

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Are you retarded?

Was that directed at the OP or opebo?

Yes.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Does the fact that the actual prostitutes are also female have any relevance to your thinking on the subject?

Yes - because they are the victims of the hate coming from the 'nice' women.  Nobody hates a ho like a 'good girl'.

Okay, whatever, but my question is, should the prostitutes also not get to vote on anything related to prostitution?

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Well, alas, given the power of the sex drive in the human psyche, Nathan, this particularly leverage - the dictatorship of the poonanny - is akin to an absolute enslavement.
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For you, perhaps.