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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« on: June 25, 2011, 06:09:33 PM »
« edited: June 25, 2011, 06:12:20 PM by Nathan »

Talk about blaming the boogeyman. The various problems of the West are of the West's own creation. Even the social dislocation that has led to the breakdown of the traditional family structure is just a byproduct of the capitalist system. Industrialization, urbanization and later - suburbanization and the rise of the service economy have logically led to the place we now inhabit. Social conservatives make it sound like some shadowy cabal is plotting the downfall of all that is good and right; rather than chalking the changes up to obvious rearrangement of the social structure. Not every trend or change requires some evil group with an Agenda (capitalized).

This also has no real relevance for 2012. Gay marriage will not decide this election.


So the capitalist system caused both rising divorce rates/out of wedlock births and the homosexual agenda? How is that not totally absurd?

The capitalist system did in fact destroy the family when urbanisation/suburbanisation started (since the nuclear family is an unholy abomination and twisted parody of the older and more organic extended model), and the homosexual agenda, as you call it, isn't really a "problem" at all.

Also, we as a people have already tried basing public policy on the family on evolutionary theory. It was called the eugenics movement, and thousands (in this country) died horrible screaming deaths.
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
Nathan
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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 06:17:08 PM »
« Edited: June 25, 2011, 06:19:30 PM by Nathan »

It just happens to possibly be the biggest weapon that those of that secular worldview have in curbing what remaining influence Biblical Christianity has on the broader culture.

From a historical and social perspective 'biblical Christianity' has not excerted very much influence on broader culture and neither it should.

Explain

(And we're talking about the United States, not the ancient Greeks or 4th century Laotians or whatever)

The type of Christianity followed in the European/American West has always been cut with European paganism, the cult of Mithra, ongoing social changes both material and immaterial, (in some areas) Amerindian religion, (since a few hundred years ago) scientific and logical outlooks on the world, and many other things, and always will be. This isn't a bad thing or anything to be afraid of. It is simply how religion as a human phenomenon behaves under normal circumstances.


It means that there is a group of people who, although most of them are not homosexual, nevertheless want to force acceptance of it upon society for no other reason than to disrupt and destroy traditional values which have served people well for thousands of years.
 
Seriously, why else does the straight left push it so hard? Homosexuals are only a small fraction of the population, are there not a multitude of other issues the left could focus on besides securing the "rights" of 1% or 2% of the population?

The answer is that the left doesn't care about the 1% to 2% of the population, they care about degrading the values of the other 98% to 99%.

First of all, it's more like ~5-10%ish (just gays and lesbians) to ~20-25%ish (anybody who could be considered queer). My numbers might be a little off there though. But in any case it's a roughly similar number, certainly not orders of magnitude bigger or smaller, to the proportion of the population that's black.

Second of all, assuming you are straight and cisgendered and have relatively traditional gender performativity, how do the lives of people who don't degrade or affect your values at all, as long as they're not trying to seduce or rape you or something?
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