Gallup: Biden takes a big hit from Democrats after Israel events

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Anyone who feels more sympathy for mass murdering terrorists than their victims, innocent civilians from a democracy who has been our close ally for decades, should go ahead and leave the party anyway.

What about the innocent Palestinian civilians who have been killed? There are more of them now than Israelis killed on 10/7, if that’s what matters (and I think from a humanitarian perspective it doesn’t *not* matter).

How do we know? The Palestinian authorities have already been caught lying about deaths and responsibility.

With all of the bombings, I would seriously doubt that the number of Gaza residents killed is lower than the number of Israelis killed or kidnapped in the first days of the conflict. Take Hamas’s numbers as you will (and I agree in general that they shouldn’t be trusted), it doesn’t pass the smell test that fewer Gazans have been killed since the start.

That being said, I think that it’s passed time for Israel to pull out. They had the moral high ground when they started, but I don’t think that they do anymore. I’m not really sure how to solve the Gaza issue though. Not completely embargoing them probably would’ve reduced tensions, but it’s obviously too late for that now.

I appreciate that Biden and his administration have been working to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.

Israel could bomb Gaza until every single building is gone and people like Harry would still question if anyone had died.

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Israel should not pull out

Instant classic

Beat me to it lol

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Israel is the Ukraine of this conflict and Hamas is the Russia. None of those 4 parties would disagree with that statement, so why should random people on the Internet?

They do not line up that neatly, and there are parallels between Ukraine and Palestine. Ukraine vs. Russia is about the most obvious example of a good vs. evil war we've had in a long time. Meanwhile the Israeli government and Hamas have both done terrible things. It's nowhere near that simple.

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Israel is the Ukraine of this conflict and Hamas is the Russia. None of those 4 parties would disagree with that statement, so why should random people on the Internet?

They do not line up that neatly, and there are parallels between Ukraine and Palestine. Ukraine vs. Russia is about the most obvious example of a good vs. evil war we've had in a long time. Meanwhile the Israeli government and Hamas have both done terrible things. It's nowhere near that simple.

The governments and people of Russia, Ukraine, Israel, and Palestine overwhelmingly agree with me and disagree with you, so I'll believe them.

Ukraine abstained on the ceasefire resolution at the UN. Maybe Zelensky is finally seeing what bad "allies" they've been.